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Old May 12, 2008, 06:00   #21
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I ran into a red v. "A red v?" I think. It can't be.
Could've been a nu or upsilon (with the extended greek symbols).
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Old May 12, 2008, 06:16   #22
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... and all the players to learn the Greek alphabet.
You'd be surprised how fast you learn that as a physics major. I'm only frustrated that we never had a class in writing these letters and other variables and symbols. My zeta looks a lot different than the professor's.
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Old May 12, 2008, 07:50   #23
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We should do what we do in my physics classes: when we run out of letters, we add Greek letters. That would give a lot more options when dealing with monsters. But I guess not everybody has greek font, huh?
FYI: what Un did recently is make every single monster in the game a different combination of symbol/colour, so that you'll never confuse to different, but similar, monsters. And by "colour", I mean "colour or combination of colours" - i.e. some monsters have more than one colour, much in the way that multi-hued monsters are multi-coloured. It might be worth considering stealing for V?
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Old May 12, 2008, 08:24   #24
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Might work, but it's still easier to confuse a red z and green z (for example) than a red z and a red ζ.

But hell, they might as well just make a graphics version. One that doesn't make things more confusing, like the one that comes with the latest version of V.

I like the one they have for Dungeon Crawl. Makes the terminal bigger, but allows for everything to be shown, no eye squinting or anything.
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Old May 12, 2008, 20:31   #25
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V should stay as it is, I think - if someone likes every monster looking different, well, that would be an additional reason to play Un.
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Old May 19, 2008, 13:22   #26
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I don't know if I can really count this, but I think it's due to the RNG.

I was a mage, level 2, dlvl 2 also. I notice a string of C's in a corridor, and one by one I start magic missle-ing them. The last few I figure I can hack with my dagger. So I hold down the right arrow key. What's this? I'm getting my butt kicked? Oh snap, it's Farmer Maggot's dog!

Needless to say, I died.
Sorry, that's YASD not being pwnt by the RNG!
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Old May 29, 2008, 07:18   #27
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Okay then, I got one. SAngband. Half-Orc warrior type, 3rd level. Oops, teleport trap. Oops no doors out of this tiny room. No hidden doors, either.
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Old June 7, 2008, 05:22   #28
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DaJAngband. A clvl 11 Necromancer on DL 7 or 8. Isn't summon monster supposed to be safe if you're standing on the stairs? I'm standing on the stairs and I read summon monster. Three monsters are summoned: a baby bronze dragon, a dark elf priest, and a tengu. You can guess the rest from that, but I'll tell you anyway. Before I had a chance to move, the tengu had "commanded me to return" so that I was no longer standing on the stairs (in fact, the three monsters were between me and the stairs) and the baby bronze dragon had confused me so that I couldn't cast spells or read scrolls.
1st turn: drink CSW to cure the confusion.
2nd turn: read phase door (and get summoned right back next to them by the tengu).
next few turns: try to get past the monsters to the stairs, and get knocked down to 3 hps.
next turn: drink another CSW, but it wasn't enough and I get killed anyway.

It was only my second dive, so I hadn't saved up enough for a staff of teleportation. I could have afforded some CCW potions if I had recalled back but I doubt that would've saved me anyway. I didn't have a teleportation spell yet.
Moral: If you read ?s of summon monster, either do it on very shallow levels where tengus and baby bronze dragons won't be summoned or wait till you've bought a staff of teleportation. (standing on the stairs isn't enough)
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Old June 18, 2008, 09:41   #29
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DaJAngband. A clvl 11 Necromancer on DL 7 or 8. Isn't summon monster supposed to be safe if you're standing on the stairs? ...

It was only my second dive, so I hadn't saved up enough for a staff of teleportation. ...
Moral: If you read ?s of summon monster, either do it on very shallow levels where tengus and baby bronze dragons won't be summoned or wait till you've bought a staff of teleportation. (standing on the stairs isn't enough)
At least it was dive 2 ie not too much lost.
It is a good excuse for reading scrolls as early as possible!
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Is there a heuristic on what depth is "normal" for which clvl? I tend to find out the hard way...
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