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Old November 4, 2011, 14:30   #181
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This Borg gets stuck trying to sell Calris.

(He has also been looking for RBlind for a looong time. He has a helmet with RBlind but then he'll lose ESP so I guess he doesn't consider that an option.)
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Old November 7, 2011, 16:14   #182
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So, finally the borg "found" rBlind by reaching 100% saving throw and started diving...

In the end the Tarrasque killed her with a disenchantment breath. She did not have rDisen but she was carrying a swap armor with rDisen that she did not use here (perhaps she would lose to many other good things, but why lugging the extra armor around then?)

I find that many of my borg characters die like this, they reach clvl50 and then start diving (like there's no tomorrow) only to die to some heavy breath of a unique or deep monster. Is the borg not allowed to know how hard he/she(/it?) can be hit by different things? In this case she had !healing left and plenty of escapes but she choose to use an acid bolt as her last move.

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Old November 8, 2011, 10:24   #183
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This Borg runs into the armor store immediately after starting, and gets stuck there.

Also, he has sold his phial to the BM for some reason.
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Old November 9, 2011, 03:04   #184
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So, finally the borg "found" rBlind by reaching 100% saving throw and started diving...

In the end the Tarrasque killed her with a disenchantment breath. She did not have rDisen but she was carrying a swap armor with rDisen that she did not use here (perhaps she would lose to many other good things, but why lugging the extra armor around then?)

I find that many of my borg characters die like this, they reach clvl50 and then start diving (like there's no tomorrow) only to die to some heavy breath of a unique or deep monster. Is the borg not allowed to know how hard he/she(/it?) can be hit by different things? In this case she had !healing left and plenty of escapes but she choose to use an acid bolt as her last move.

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Sorry to hear about the death. The borg does know how to swap stuff like that. He must have felt the current armor was more protective. There are even special considerations for the Tarrasque.

He does understand the general damage of each monster's breath attack. He does understand that the damage from breath is related to the HP of the monster. He does not cheat the HP, but he makes an estimate based on the health bar. So he gets pretty close.
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Old November 9, 2011, 03:22   #185
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This Borg runs into the armor store immediately after starting, and gets stuck there.

Also, he has sold his phial to the BM for some reason.

The fault was quick to find. He is trying to sell the cursed item. That fix was easy.

But this file shows something else. The borg is selling off the good gloves because Cambeleg is +2 STR, and he is over weight. He needs to sell off those extra spellbooks to reduce his encumbrance. Then, he would keep Fingolfin. So, hold off on running this borg until I get that worked up. I should be able to fix it tonight or tomorrow.
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Old November 9, 2011, 19:16   #186
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This Borg runs into the armor store immediately after starting, and gets stuck there.

Also, he has sold his phial to the BM for some reason.
This is a great savefile. There are a couple of things that I found. The problem of selling the boots was simple and no big deal.

The bigger problems were that the borg was not selling his stack of books to the shop. The shops were full and the borg did not consider merging his books into the existing store stack.

Also I worked up some code to help the borg understand that certain items may still have some benefit even if cursed. Those Wormtongue boots are pretty nice for a low level guy. But the borg wouldn't even consider it because of the curse. With the changes today, the borg will give a better consideration to cursed artifacts and look at the other benefits. Of course, he also knows how to remove curse on items.
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Old November 10, 2011, 12:29   #187
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This borg is currently carrying around 8 extra artifacts in his pack. This means that he is slowed down (but that doesn't matter 'cause he has enough speed), but it also means that he has no space for any scrolls, wands, rods or staves...

I continued this borg from a run yesterday (so without the latest changes) and I saw nothing strange then.
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Old November 10, 2011, 16:18   #188
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Interesting randart situation in this save:

Randart white dsm, no activation. it looks like the borg assumes DSM will always have an activation, and keeps trying it. Does the borg detect activations?
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Old November 16, 2011, 12:08   #189
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I hava a feeling that the Borg gets hung up on rubble a lot. I often come back from lunch, to see my borg ambling around in front of a piece of rubble without getting through. Sometimes he recovers once he runs out of food, sometimes not.
So here are the guys who died of starvation this month. Note that Felelerith is level 37, and several died in town.


2011/11/10 07:01
Kaaynn the Dunadan Paladin, Level 4/4
Exp: 300 Gold: 122 Turn: 752870
Killed on level: 1 (max. 2) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 5 2011
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2011/11/10 02:56
Vrilg the Kobold Rogue, Level 3/3
Exp: 249 Gold: 117 Turn: 149840
Killed on level: 1 (max. 2) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 5 2011
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2011/11/08 19:06
Felelerith the High-Elf Ranger, Level 37/37
Exp: 1605244 Gold: 40081 Turn: 17844030
Killed on level: 13 (max. 35) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 5 2011
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2011/11/07 05:38
Tuopo the Gnome Warrior, Level 8/8
Exp: 673 Gold: 462 Turn: 449200
Killed on level: 3 (max. 4) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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2011/11/06 22:15
Ryli the Dunadan Paladin, Level 8/8
Exp: 894 Gold: 454 Turn: 1453310
Killed on level: 2 (max. 4) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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2011/11/06 20:32
Calithrarith the High-Elf Ranger, Level 12/12
Exp: 2746 Gold: 110 Turn: 6041680
Killed on level: 0 (max. 9) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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2011/11/06 18:05
Gorag the Kobold Warrior, Level 7/7
Exp: 622 Gold: 244 Turn: 614570
Killed on level: 2 (max. 4) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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2011/11/04 13:52
Pomak the Half-Troll Priest, Level 7/7
Exp: 522 Gold: 202 Turn: 429890
Killed on level: 1 (max. 3) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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2011/11/08 20:07
Kidon the Dunadan Ranger, Level 11/11
Exp: 1706 Gold: 51 Turn: 2052640
Killed on level: 1 (max. 5) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 5 2011
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Old November 16, 2011, 12:12   #190
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Note that Felelerith is level 37, and several died in town.
Level 1 is dungeon, Town is level 0. There is one starvation death there.


2011/11/06 20:32
Calithrarith the High-Elf Ranger, Level 12/12
Exp: 2746 Gold: 110 Turn: 6041680
Killed on level: 0 (max. 9) by starvation
Borg Compile Date: Nov 3 2011
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