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| View Poll Results: How much attention do you pay to level feelings? | |||
| None: I fully explore every level. |
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4 | 9.30% |
| None: I take every down stair as soon as I find it. |
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3 | 6.98% |
| Some: I spend a little more time on levels with relatively good feelings. |
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27 | 62.79% |
| A lot: I base my time spent per level entirely on the quality of the level feeling. |
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7 | 16.28% |
| A ton: I'll scum for levels until I find one whose feeling matches the quality I'm looking for. |
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2 | 4.65% |
| Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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Knight
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Poll: How much attention do you pay to level feelings?
I'm curious as to how people adjust their play based on the level feelings they receive. I take this to be more important in the early game when players' detection isn't quite so sophisticated, [edit: before] level feelings become relatively unimportant.
Last edited by Donald Jonker; January 5, 2009 at 22:15. |
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Knight
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Poland, Katowice
Age: 20
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Some. While I usually take most down stairs, I simply can't resists exploring that superb level...
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Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Grenoble, France
Age: 35
Posts: 16
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Actually, when I started a new game, I fully explored each level. When I am little more experienced, I only explore fully Good Feeling level.
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Swordsman
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I don't pay any attention at all, but I can't vote for either of the first options because I'm not consistant between them.
I'm more likely to dive when I'm bored, which has no relation to level feeling. I explore levels when I'm challenged at the current level even though this is incredibly bad for my chances of survival. I also tend to stairscum so I get a lot of "looks like any other level". Sometimes I stairscum for more stairs, preferably with stair detection or magic map. In 2.7.9 I sometimes used serial stair creation to either dive or rise when I wanted to hunt a level other than my recall depth, which also lead to a lot of "looks like any other level". Sometimes when playing a variant or class that's new to me I'll stairscum the first level for flavored items so I can pick up a little cash and some phase door scrolls. The problem with level feelings is that they don't place any limits on the danger level, which is the only thing that really matters. Monster spawning is completely unrelated to level feeling. I can't know that the nice boring level didn't have an ood unique generated twenty turns in. By the same token a pack of forest trolls may be boring, or they may be carrying stat potions or the Elendilmir and the phial is usually carried by a snaga on a boring level. That's without getting into pits which can range from superb (black dragons when I have Thorin) to terrible (undead pit under any circumstances) to boring as all get out (jelly pit).
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Swordsman
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indiana, U.S.A.
Age: 34
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The level feelings change the tone of my game. If I come across a superb level I suddenly start playing more cautiously and if it says boring I slam the keys pretty fast without much care as to which one I'm slamming.
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,364
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I mostly dive and ignore, but if I get stuck, I'll explore good levels rather than boring ones.
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Knight
Join Date: Jun 2008
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I oughta answer my own question: I always ignore level feelings, taking the nearest down-stair, but occasionally making detours for lucrative detected monsters/items/vaults. I actually can't remember the last time that a good level feeling was actually connected with a particularly noteworthy find. Edit: then again, that's probably because I stopped paying attention.
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Prophet
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 2,774
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If I'm stuck (dived down to a level that my CL/equipment can't handle) and can go no deeper without extra-ordinary risk, then I pay a lot of attention to level feelings, because I'm usually looking for helpful magic items. Normally, I'll 1/2 search superb/excellent levels, esp. with a stealthy character, else I'll stay pretty close to the stairs once I find them. As for the rest of the level feelings, they're all the same to me, dive deeper.
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Swordsman
Join Date: Apr 2007
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No, that's not it. Most noteworthy finds fall into one of three categories:
1) items that are in depth and cannot become egos (eg stat potions) 2) items that are dropped by monsters 3) items in vaults Only the third affects level feelings directly, and they occur at depths when most levels are felt to be "interesting", usually for reasons relating to monsters not items. Autoscum makes this worse by preferentially generating interesting levels. I know this is the V subforum, but an illustration from ToME might be enlightening. ToME has fates and one There are simply so few floor items relative to monster drops and monster drops can be elevated by several dungeon levels when they come from deeper monsters. Interesting for dungeon level x is what is dropped by the deepest monsters common at that dungeon level. If stuff 4 levels OOD is common and killable and my recollection is accurate that item generation uses the average of monster and dungeon level then items generated to level x+2 are par for that level. Floor items would be a double bogey. Add monsters that DROP_GOOD and noteworthy finds are even more likely to not figure in level feelings.
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Knight
Join Date: May 2007
Location: US
Age: 35
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I explore the whole level if I get a lucky feeling, I know there's something different nearby, if it's not a nest of monsters, there's usually a ego item right around the corner. This usually means a good level for me. Very important for me as I usually play without artifacts.
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