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View Poll Results: What should we do about "pushes past" messages?
Leave them as is 0 0%
Get rid of them completely 9 29.03%
Have them for monsters in LOS but not those detected by ESP 17 54.84%
Have them as a game option 5 16.13%
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Old July 29, 2009, 08:27   #1
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What to do about "pushes past" messages?

Looks like the messages about monsters with MOVE_BODY pushing past other monsters can get a bit tedious, especially with ESP.
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Old July 29, 2009, 08:56   #2
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I voted remove completely, although I haven't played V with them yet - monsters push past in O/FA/NPP(?) all the time without saying anything.
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Old July 29, 2009, 09:04   #3
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I voted remove completely, although I haven't played V with them yet - monsters push past in O/FA/NPP(?) all the time without saying anything.
I reckon it's quite helpful to be told when a monster has just pashed another one in my LOS - that could change my tactical situation in a way that I need to know about.
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Similarly to Nick, I haven't played with the messages on, but I don't see any need for them. If a monster pushes past another in my LoS then I'll see it.

The only time I'd want them is for an off-screen monster in LoS - then I have some warning that something nasty is coming... but that is just a partial solution to a different problem altogether.
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Off the top of my head, I'd go with messages only for enemies which are within 10' of you, or no messages at all, but I haven't played it yet.
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I voted to get rid of it completely. I think visually seeing a monster swap places with another is enough heads up. These messages kinda spam the window and make resting, etc. take forever.
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I voted to get rid of it completely. I think visually seeing a monster swap places with another is enough heads up. These messages kinda spam the window and make resting, etc. take forever.
If they were turned off for ESP detection, would that make a difference - or would you still rest with moving monsters in LOS??
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If they were turned off for ESP detection, would that make a difference - or would you still rest with moving monsters in LOS??
Personally this feature has no value to me regardless of distance or LoS, but that's just my opinion.
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I voted to get rid of it completely. I think visually seeing a monster swap places with another is enough heads up. These messages kinda spam the window and make resting, etc. take forever.
If the monster is in LOS, you cannot rest anyway. I guess you could keep pressing 's' and then multiple messages as something fast in LOS pushes toward you would be annoying, but how often would you do that?

OTOH, I wouldn't care that much if the messages all went away, so long as the "trample" messages are kept, even for ESP. I want to know every time my best buddy Huan clears another monster from a vault.
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Old July 29, 2009, 21:41   #10
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I voted for having them when in LOS.
I'm not always attentive enough to see a single monster coming that would be nastier than the rest of the environing monsters.
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