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Old September 3, 2007, 17:00   #1
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Unangband 0.6.0-wip6a has been released

Unangband 0.6.2-wip6a has been released. This update fixes a number of bugs reported from the wip6 release. This is a work in progress release: please save often.

I've worked hard on improving the documentation and experience for those new to Unangband, as well as fixed some major stability bugs on the Windows platform. If you've tried Unangband recently due to the discussions on angband.oook.cz and were dissatisfied, please download this release and see if I've addressed the issues you raised.


You can download a windows executable from http://prdownload.berlios.de/unangba...-wip6a-win.zip.

You can download the source files from
http://prdownload.berlios.de/unangba...-wip6a-src.zip.

- Added in differing religions for priests. Note that this only affects starting books and only
Mandos should be selected at this stage - the other priest books are not well populated as of
yet

- Fix bug with wand of sparks having rift effect 50% of the time.

- Fix bug with birth menus causing incorrect game choices much of the time.

Andrew

[Edit: That is of course, a slightly incorrect topic line]
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Old September 3, 2007, 19:20   #2
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I just updated and brought a savefile from the last release. My character on the last release was a dwarf warrior, but for some reason it had me listed as a shadow fairy warrior, but I had the abilities of a dwarf so I didn't mind. But when I updated it gave me the abilities (skills) of a shadow fairy warrior because it had me listed that way (The character history still says I'm a dwarf). I should've just waited till between games to update. How can I send you the savefile?
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Old September 3, 2007, 19:24   #3
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Don't you cherish the ability to be the first (and quite possibly the only) Shadow Fairy Warrior in existence? Dude, if you play it through, I'd switch from my Shadow Fairy Paladins, inspired by you, to Shadow Fairy Warriors!
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I just updated and brought a savefile from the last release. My character on the last release was a dwarf warrior, but for some reason it had me listed as a shadow fairy warrior, but I had the abilities of a dwarf so I didn't mind. But when I updated it gave me the abilities (skills) of a shadow fairy warrior because it had me listed that way (The character history still says I'm a dwarf). I should've just waited till between games to update. How can I send you the savefile?
Email it to my gmail account and I'll fix him up...
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Don't you cherish the ability to be the first (and quite possibly the only) Shadow Fairy Warrior in existence? Dude, if you play it through, I'd switch from my Shadow Fairy Paladins, inspired by you, to Shadow Fairy Warriors!
Definetly the only Shadow fairy warrior who was the son of a dwarven priest..


Andrew, what is your g-mail account? That's why I asked how to send it to you. It's not in the game, or the readme file, or the changes file, or your signature.
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Definetly the only Shadow fairy warrior who was the son of a dwarven priest..


Andrew, what is your g-mail account? That's why I asked how to send it to you. It's not in the game, or the readme file, or the changes file, or your signature.
(edit) Its andrewdoull@gmail.com - as noted below, I'll erase it from this message once you've emailled me. Not sure whether I can PM you or not (have tried).

(edit 2) Just enabled email from other users on here as well...
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Shhh... You could have just PM'd this info to him.
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Edit: FIXED: Goldberry's gifts are still open to newbies, as is Tom's house.

(and his potions and scrolls still get unIDed and all locations are 'near', etc., etc., as in my report elsewhere). A new one: starting priests gets a +0 amulet of charisma --- it can be somewhat hacked, I remember I did it for ringbearers...

I'm thinking about your multiple religions preparations...

Not that I am a purist, but I wonder, do you know any priests in Middle Earth? Anything close? I guess Numenorean kings, the good and the bad ones, I guess lots of evil men, if you want evil religion, anything else? I seem to remember Silmarillion and other unfinished tales have more magic and more religion in them. In LOTR and Hobbit it is all but absent. Frodo calls Varda, anyting else? I've heard something about a dwarven (secret?) religion, or was it Silmarillion?

I guess the angels (gods) were much easier accessible to the people in Middle Earth. Just over the Sea and often visible, so this may be why there was less rituals and more cooperation (or at least the memory of cooperation). They were better known so it was obvious they cannot be bribed on one hand and do not persecute for lack of worship, on the other hand.

It was obvious they are not The One, so they were not worshiped as autonomous God/Gods, but as servants of The One. It was useless to try to get their help in opposing the justice/song/fate of The One. They didn't try to be self-sufficient, so a worship of one Vala exclusively would be foolish, because every Vala was weak in very many vital areas and strong only in his chosen ones. The One has not shown his face to the people back then, nor revealed himself in any other way than through world and Valar (though some say he was Tom Bombadil, etc., or that he was yet to come to Middle Earth). So it was quite hard, abstract and impersonal to worhip The One (but there are the Numenoreans, I wonder why them of all).

Hmm...

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Not that I am a purist, but I wonder, do you know any priests in Middle Earth? Anything close? I guess Numenorean kings, the good and the bad ones, I guess lots of evil men, if you want evil religion, anything else? I seem to remember Silmarillion and other unfinished tales have more magic and more religion in them. In LOTR and Hobbit it is all but absent. Frodo calls Varda, anyting else? I've heard something about a dwarven (secret?) religion, or was it Silmarillion?
Religion as we understand it was pretty much absent. There is mention of priests in Numenor; they used to offer "first fruits" to Iluvatar on the Meneltarma (the mountain at the centre of Numenor, wnich was described as a "hallowed place"). But this, like the Gondorians always looking to the West before they ate, was more a givnig of due respect than a prayer - there was no real concept of faith.

As you say, though, there was considerable worship of Sauron and Morgoth, but it was something that they tricked or forced their followers into. As you also say, calling out certain names seems to have had an effect, particularly on evil things - "Elbereth" was supposed by Aragorn to have hurt the Ringwraiths, not just frightened them.

I find myself feeling better about the existence of priests now
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