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Old September 30, 2007, 15:45   #1
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Question [NPP] Equipment dilemma

I was feeling pretty good about my equipment, but then I got down to level 43 and ran into the biggest vault I've ever seen -- it was was like a huge satanic spreadsheet where each cell said something like 'UMD' or 'DDWUQ'. After clearing maybe a quarter of it, I ended up with about 6 new artifacts and a wheelbarrow full of ego, and now I'm unsure of what to use. It does not make sense to replace any one thing by itself; but if I replace many things together, it starts to look compelling. At bottom, I've built up a new equipment profile, and I'm looking for reactions, because I'm too new to be sure of what's important to gain and acceptable to lose. Sadly, the dealers aren't giving more than 10K per item today.

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  [NPPAngband 0.5.0-BETA4 Character Dump]

 Name   Nougat                            Self RB CB  EB   Best
 Sex    Female         Age     126 STR:  18/80 +1 +5 +10 18/240
 Race   High-Elf       Height   64 INT:     16 +3 -2  +0     17
 Class  Warrior        Weight  179 WIS:     17 -1 -2  +0     14
 Title  Commando       Status   31 DEX:  18/21 +3 +2  +5 18/121
 HP     758/758                    CON:  18/60 +1 +2 +14 18/230
 SP     0/0            Level    34 CHR:     14 +5 -1  +0     18

 GameTurn      733389  Armor  [36,+108] Saving Throw     Superb
 PlayerTurn     80759  Fight  (+27,+21) Stealth          Superb
 Cur Exp       680918  Melee  (+40,+31) Fighting      Legendary
 Max Exp       680918  Shoot  (+36,+23) Shooting      Legendary
 Adv Exp        19082  Blows     6/turn Disarming        Superb
 MaxDepth     Lev  43  Shots     1/turn Magic Device     Superb
 Gold          197567  Speed         +4 Perception    Very Good
 Burden       245 lbs  Infra      90 ft Searching     Excellent
 % Burden         81%

 You are one of several children of a Telerin Ranger. You have
 light blue eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.




  [Character Equipment Stat Modifiers, Sustains and Flags]

(+/-)   +++ + + ++
      \}=="~[()]]]               \}=="~[()]]]
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@
 Str: ...3....4..3.        Str:  ...s.........
 Int: .............        Int:  .............
 Wis: .............        Wis:  .............
 Dex: ....1.....4..        Dex:  ....s........
 Con: ..6...1.4..3.        Con:  ..s..........
 Chr: .............        Chr:  .............
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@ 
 Acid:......+.*....        Blind:............. 
 Elec:......+......        Confu:......+...... 
 Fire:......+......        Sound:......+.+.... 
 Cold:......+......        Shard:............. 
 Pois:....+........        Nexus:....+.++..... 
 Fear:........+..++        Nethr:............. 
 Lite:............+        Chaos:........+.... 
 Dark:+............        Disen:............. 
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@ 
S.Dig:.............        Stea.:....+..+.....
Feath:..........+..        Sear.:....+.....+..
PLite:+............        Infra:....+........
Regen:.............        Aggr.:.............
Telep:.........+...        Speed:....+..+...+.
Invis:+...........+        Blows:.............
FrAct:+.......+.+..        Shots:.............
HLife:+............        Might:.............
      abcdefghijkl@              abcdefghijkl@
      \}=="~[()]]]               \}=="~[()]]] 

  [Character Equipment]

a) a Flail of Gondolin (2d6) (+13,+10) {HLife}
   It slays orcs, trolls, dragons, and demons.  It provides
   resistance to dark and life draining.  It lights the dungeon
   around you.  It grants you immunity to paralysis and the
   ability to see invisible things.  It cannot be harmed by acid 
   or fire.  It gives you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 34.
b) a Heavy Crossbow of Power (x4) (+9,+23)
c) an Onyx Ring of Constitution (+6)
   It increases your constitution by 6.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
d) a Silver Ring of Strength (+3)
   It increases your strength by 3.  It sustains your strength.  
e) a Tortoise Shell Amulet of Trickery (+1)
   It increases your dexterity by 1.  It increases your stealth, 
   searching, infravision, and speed by 1.  It provides
   resistance to poison and nexus.  It sustains your dexterity.  
   It was dropped by Lagduf, the Snaga on dungeon level 37.
f) The Phial of Galadriel
   It lights the dungeon around you.  It activates for
   illumination every 10+d10 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 36.
g) The Full Plate Armour of Isildur [25,+25] (+1)
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It provides resistance
   to acid, lightning, fire, cold, confusion, sound, and nexus.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 40.
h) The Cloak 'Colannon' [1,+15] (+3)
   It increases your stealth and speed by 3.  It provides
   resistance to nexus.  It activates for teleport every 45
   turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was dropped by Mîm, Betrayer of Túrin on dungeon level 37.
i) The Small Metal Shield of Thorin [3,+25] (+4)
   It increases your strength and constitution by 4.  It
   provides immunity to acid.  It provides resistance to fear, 
   sound, and chaos.  It grants you immunity to paralysis.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was dropped by a Master vampire on dungeon level 41.
j) a Golden Crown of Telepathy [0,+7]
   It grants you the power of telepathy.  It cannot be harmed by 
   acid.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 41.
k) a Set of Leather Gloves of Thievery (+4,+1) [1,+8] (+4)
   It increases your dexterity by 4.  It increases your 
   searching by 4.  It makes you fall like a feather.  It grants
   you immunity to paralysis.  
l) The Pair of Metal Shod Boots of Thrór [6,+20] (+3)
   It increases your strength and constitution by 3.  It
   increases your speed by 3.  It provides resistance to fear.  
   It makes you native to terrains made of acid.  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 42.


  [Character Equipment -- Quiver]

(a lot of fancy bolts)


  [Character Inventory]

a) 8 Scrolls titled "wunrog ur" of Teleportation
b) 28 Scrolls titled "vlysef evssta" of Identify {@r1, 40% off}
c) a Zinc Rod of Recall {@z2}
   It cannot be harmed by electricity.  
d) 2 Lead Rods of Detection {@z3}
   It cannot be harmed by electricity.  
e) 2 Runed Rods of Fire Bolts
f) a Bronze Rod of *Identify* (charging)
   It cannot be harmed by electricity.  
   It was dropped by a Black wraith on dungeon level 43.
g) 5 Molybdenum Wands of Teleport Other (14 charges)
h) a Redwood Staff of Speed (1 charge)
i) The Ring of Barahir (+1)
   It increases all your stats by 1.  It increases your stealth
   by 1.  It provides resistance to poison and dark.  It cannot
   be harmed by the elements.  
   It was found in a chest on dungeon level 43.
j) The Amulet of Carlammas (+2)
   It increases your constitution by 2.  It provides resistance
   to fire.  It activates for protection from evil every
   225+d225 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was found in a chest on dungeon level 43.
k) The Mithril Chain Mail 'Belegennon' (-1) [28,+20] (+4)
   It increases your stealth by 4.  It provides resistance to 
   acid, lightning, fire, cold, and poison.  It activates for
   phase door every 2 turns.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
l) The Cloak 'Holcolleth' [1,+4] (+2)
   It increases your intelligence and wisdom by 2.  It increases
   your stealth and speed by 2.  It provides resistance to acid.
   It activates for mass sleep every 55 turns.  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
m) a Cloak of the Magi [1,+11] (+1) {Telep}
   It increases your intelligence by 1.  It increases your 
   stealth by 1.  It sustains your intelligence.  It grants you 
   the power of telepathy.  It cannot be harmed by acid.  
n) a Large Leather Shield of Preservation [4,+10] {RNethr}
   It provides resistance to nether, disenchantment, and life
   draining.  It sustains your strength, dexterity, and 
   constitution.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was dropped by a Mature gold dragon on dungeon level 43.
o) The Large Leather Shield of Celegorm [4,+20]
   It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, light, 
   and dark.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
p) The Main Gauche of Maedhros (2d5) (+12,+15) (+3)
   It increases your intelligence and dexterity by 3.  It
   increases your speed by 3.  It slays trolls and giants.  It
   grants you immunity to paralysis and the ability to see
   invisible things.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It
   gives you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
q) The Small Sword 'Sting' (1d6) (+7,+8) (+2)
   It increases your strength, dexterity, and constitution by 2.
   It increases your speed and attack speed by 2.  It slays 
   animals, orcs, undead, and all evil creatures.  It provides
   resistance to fear and light.  It lights the dungeon around
   you.  It grants you immunity to paralysis and the ability to
   see invisible things.  It makes you native to terrains made
   of forest.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It gives
   you 8 attacks per turn.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
r) The Cutlass 'Gondricam' (1d7) (+10,+11) (+3)
   It increases your dexterity by 3.  It increases your stealth
   by 3.  It provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, and 
   cold.  It makes you fall like a feather and speeds your
   regeneration.  It grants you the ability to see invisible
   things.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It gives you 6
   attacks per turn.  
   It was dropped by Angamaitë of Umbar on dungeon level 34.
s) The Scimitar 'Haradekket' (2d5) (+9,+11) (+2)
   It increases your dexterity by 2.  It increases your attack
   speed by 2.  It slays animals, undead, and all evil creatures.
   It grants you the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot
   be harmed by the elements.  It gives you 8 attacks per turn.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 39.

  [Home Inventory Stat Modifiers, Sustains and Flags]

(+/-)               ++ +    +++
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       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
 Str:  ..............2.......11  Str:  ..............s.........
 Int:  ........................  Int:  ...................s....
 Wis:  ................2.......  Wis:  ................s.......
 Dex:  .....................211  Dex:  ........................
 Con:  .............4........11  Con:  .............ss.........
 Chr:  ................2....2..  Chr:  ................s.......
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
 Acid: ...............+...+.... Blind: ........................
 Elec: ...............+...+.... Confu: ........................
 Fire: ...............+.+.++... Sound: ........................
 Cold: ...............+..++.... Shard: ........................
 Pois: ........................ Nexus: ........................
 Fear: ..............+.+....... Nethr: ........................
 Lite: ....................+... Chaos: ........................
 Dark: ........................ Disen: ..............++........
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
S.Dig: ..................+.+... Stea.: ...............+...+.+..
Feath: ................+..+.+.. Sear.: ....................+...
PLite: ....................+... Infra: ........................
Regen: .................+.+.... Aggr.: ........................
Telep: ........................ Speed: ........................
Invis: ...................+.+++ Blows: ........................
FrAct: ..............+....+..++ Shots: ........................
HLife: ........................ Might: ........................
       abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx        abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx
       ,!!!!!????--_=")]]]|||||        ,!!!!!????--_=")]]]|||||

  [Home Inventory]

a) 3 Yellow Mushrooms of Restoring
b) 4 Brown Potions of Healing
c) a Tangerine Potion of *Healing*
d) 9 Pink Potions of Restore Life Levels {25% off}
e) a Pink Speckled Potion of Restore Strength
f) 2 Orange Speckled Potions of Restore Constitution
g) 26 Scrolls titled "wunrog ur" of Teleportation
h) 20 Scrolls titled "vlysef evssta" of Identify {@r1, 25% off}
i) 17 Scrolls titled "petden engcos" of Enchant Weapon To-Dam
j) a Scroll titled "lechflit bitel" of Recharging
k) 2 Nickel Rods of Teleport Other
l) 3 Molybdenum Wands of Teleport Other (20 charges)
m) 4 Birch Staffs of Teleportation (30 charges)
n) an Onyx Ring of Constitution (+4)
   It increases your constitution by 4.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
o) a Crystal Amulet of Weaponmastery (+2,+3) (+2)
   It increases your strength by 2.  It provides resistance to 
   fear and disenchantment.  It sustains your strength and 
   constitution.  It grants you immunity to paralysis.  
   It was dropped by an Ancient bronze dragon on dungeon level 43.
p) a Large Metal Shield of Elvenkind [5,+5] (+1 to stealth) {RDisen}
   It increases your stealth by 1.  It provides resistance to 
   acid, lightning, fire, cold, and disenchantment.  It cannot
   be harmed by the elements.  
   It was dropped by Mîm, Betrayer of Túrin on dungeon level 37.
q) an Iron Crown of Lordliness [0,+6] (+2) {Feath}
   It increases your wisdom and charisma by 2.  It provides
   resistance to fear.  It sustains your wisdom and charisma.  
   It makes you fall like a feather.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 34.
r) The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurhach' [2,+15]
   It provides resistance to fire.  It speeds your regeneration.
   It activates for resist fire (20+d20 turns) every 50+d50 turns.  
   It was dropped by a Nether wraith on dungeon level 37.
s) The Set of Gauntlets 'Paurnimmen' [2,+15]
   It provides resistance to cold.  It slows your metabolism.  
   It activates for resist cold (20+d20 turns) every 50+d50 turns.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
t) a Cutlass (Defender) (2d8) (+11,+12) [+4] (+3 to stealth) {SustINT}
   It increases your stealth by 3.  It provides resistance to 
   acid, lightning, fire, and cold.  It sustains your 
   intelligence.  It makes you fall like a feather and speeds
   your regeneration.  It grants you immunity to paralysis and 
   the ability to see invisible things.  It cannot be harmed by
   the elements.  It gives you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was lying on the floor on dungeon level 43.
u) The Broad Sword 'Glamdring' (2d5) (+10,+15) (+1)
   It increases your searching by 1.  It slays orcs, demons, and 
   all evil creatures.  It is branded with fire.  It provides
   resistance to fire and light.  It is blessed by the gods, 
   slows your metabolism, and lights the dungeon around you.  It
   cannot be harmed by the elements.  It gives you 6 attacks per
   turn.  
   It was dropped by a Gnome mage on dungeon level 23.
v) The Long Sword 'Elvagil' (2d5) (+2,+7) (+2)
   It increases your dexterity and charisma by 2.  It increases
   your stealth by 2.  It slays orcs and trolls.  It makes you
   fall like a feather.  It grants you the ability to see
   invisible things.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It
   gives you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was dropped by a Lesser titan on dungeon level 43.
w) a Long Sword of Westernesse (2d5) (+16,+15) (+1)
   It increases your strength, dexterity, and constitution by 1.
   It slays orcs, trolls, and giants.  It grants you immunity to
   paralysis and the ability to see invisible things.  It gives
   you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was found in a chest on dungeon level 43.
x) a Bastard Sword of Westernesse (3d4) (+12,+8) (+1)
   It increases your strength, dexterity, and constitution by 1.
   It slays orcs, trolls, and giants.  It grants you immunity to
   paralysis and the ability to see invisible things.  It gives
   you 6 attacks per turn.  
   It was dropped by a Master vampire on dungeon level 41.
Here's what I'm thinking of switching to ...

Weapon: Sting;
Rings: Con+6, Barahir;
Amulet: Weaponmastery
Armor: Isildur (unchanged)
Cloak of the Magi (for the telepathy)
Shield of Preservation
Crown of Lordliness
Gloves of Thievery
Boots of Thror

PRO:
All stats now sustained, most increased, but Con decreased by 2
Gain Lite
Gain Nether
Gain Disen (twice)

CON:
Lose acid immunity (but keep a resistance)
Decrease from 3 Nexus to 1
Lose Chaos
Speed from +7 to +5


All suggestions welcome. This is the deepest I've ever been, and I want to make the most of it. Thanks in advance!

Bonus question: can rods be destroyed by anything other than electricity?
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Old September 30, 2007, 21:48   #2
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Why would you want to change to Lordliness? That gives you nothing. Keep the helm and cloak as they are. Forget Nether, Chaos is more important, so keep Thorin. This should give you max cons with Barahir alone (if not buy cons potions...). Wear the biggest +dam or ofCombot ring you can find on the other finger.
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Why would you want to change to Lordliness? That gives you nothing.
My thinking was that it does more than the helm of telepathy, telepathy being available elsewhere. The question is moot because your solution is better. (I didn't know about Chaos and Nether.) The lesson here has to be that more pluses on the character screen is not necessarily better. Also I have never before maxed my Con, so I wasn't thinking about that. Thanks for the tips.
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