|
|
#1 |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,338
Donated: $40
![]() |
Spammers & bots
After the massive pr0nspam attack yesterday, I took a look at the new members list.
It's pretty clear this site is under moderately heavy attack by bots--there are an insane number of new 'members' with obviously generated names with 0 posts and 0 visits, on order of 10 registrations per day. One of them--apparently a master site--is repeatedly using an R-rated picture as its avatar. Pav, This is looking rather grim. Can you put some restriction on the composition of user names or something? If you like, I'm willing to research the vbulletin boards for possible remedies. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2 |
|
FAangband maintainer
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia
Age: 47
Posts: 3,720
Donated: $60
![]() |
A partial solution might be to
Don't ask for implementation details - I'm more of an idea rat.
__________________
"There is no safety. There is no end. The word must be heard in silence. There must be darkness to see the stars. The dance is always danced above the hollow place, above the terrible abyss." - The Farthest Shore, Ursula Le Guin |
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Administrator
|
Pete, I am aware of those usernames. So far, they havent done any harm, or any activity at all. They were all registered from a single subnet of certain Indonesian ADSL provider, which is rather curious.
The spam outbreaks are always done by a freshly registered username. Deleting accounts is counter-productive, as that allows the spambot second round of spamming. Banning these accounts is better.
__________________
See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz |
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Prophet
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,752
![]() |
I recommend changing the captcha to something more specific to Angband. I don't think that the bots are specifically targeting this site; they're just scanning for forums they know how to register and post on, and then trying repeatedly to get past the captcha. Change it into something like "What is the first artifact light source most characters find?" (and then doing a regex for "galadriel" on the answer) would probably work pretty well. Or even "What famous fantasy author's work is Angband based on?"
Heck, one site I use just says "Are you human?" |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Adept
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 160
![]() |
Yeah, fighting spam(-bots) is not an easy task. I have some success on a forum with a simple math module (well, for phpBB). Its just questioning stuff like "seven plus 3" or "IV minus six" and the like...it seems to work. Maybe this is an idea for this board (if there is a module for vBulletin). The "board topic" related question will work too.
Captcha and email activation do some good but seem to leak a bit. I dont know why...maybe the bots are good enough. Another change i recently made is to put all users into a "newly registered users" group which doesnt allow them to browse the memberlist, pm other members and post directly (posts have to be approved first). They will be put into the usual member group after 2 posts (apporoved ones). I think that you can compare the workload to this forum (also more users but postcount should be similar or just a bit higher). And it consumes maybe 15-20 minutes additional "work" a day. Protecting the admin area with an .htaccess file seems to do good too. So many little things can be done. The sum should work well
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Administrator
|
Those are solid advices, but I believe the recent spam outbreaks were carried out by a living fleshy human, not by a botnet.
I would hate to inconvenience newcomers to have to wait a couple of hours before their initial post is approved. I fear that would drive people away from starting to post on here. I already do that thing you mentioned about PMs.
__________________
See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz |
|
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Swordsman
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 441
![]() |
You could, though, hold any post with an external url or image by a new poster for moderation.
So urls that start with andband.ook.cz are allowed through (since the ladder is here) but any other url gets the post in the moderation queue.
__________________
One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to bind them.
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness interrupt the movie. |
|
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
Administrator
|
Not a bad idea. I will check how hard it will be to implement in vB.
__________________
See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz |
|
|
|
|
|
#9 |
|
Adept
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 160
![]() |
Hm, and what about having a post delay of some minutes for the second post (after registration - one post direct, 2nd one has to wait)? Mostly people who are interested will post one topic or answer a question maybe - but they seldom post 2 or more times after they registered. So this may help to keep the mass spamming flesh humans away because it takes them too much time (actually they get paid for it).
Sure there is the chance that someone wants to post twice and maybe has to wait for 5 minutes. But with a good description this shouldn't be a too big problem for most people. And if its a problem for them then theyre maybe in the wrong forum anyway
|
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Administrator
|
Ineffective - the first spam will still get through.
__________________
See the elves and everything! http://angband.oook.cz |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| steamband & mutations | cofresi | Variants | 3 | December 23, 2009 21:16 |
| Ironman Q & A | miyazaki | Vanilla | 1 | August 24, 2009 02:23 |
| Fear & AC-bonus | miyazaki | Vanilla | 2 | August 19, 2009 15:29 |
| Larvitz's Q&A Thread 1.0 | Larvitz | Vanilla | 6 | January 30, 2009 20:15 |
| Feature & game_balancing requests | Daven_26d1 | Vanilla | 6 | July 14, 2007 22:52 |