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Old July 15, 2010, 07:43   #1
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Checkpoint: ftp.sunet.se mirrored...

...other than some grossly IP-flouting variants, thanks to the U.S. DCMA.

To be a perfectionist, I'd resync against the following before mass-uploading to my website:
* ToME 2/3 master site
* Unangband Berlios.de master site
* V

Other than the above exceptions, I'm fairly confident that an immediate upload should be fairly close to current.
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Old July 15, 2010, 09:16   #2
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...other than some grossly IP-flouting variants, thanks to the U.S. DCMA.

To be a perfectionist, I'd resync against the following before mass-uploading to my website:
* ToME 2/3 master site
* Unangband Berlios.de master site
* V

Other than the above exceptions, I'm fairly confident that an immediate upload should be fairly close to current.
You mean DMCA Which variants do you consider grossly IP-flaunting ?

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Old July 15, 2010, 13:56   #3
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Yeah, technically isn't Vanilla one of those? :P
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Old July 15, 2010, 15:31   #4
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You mean DMCA Which variants do you consider grossly IP-flaunting ?

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Could someone explain what is DMCA in this context? Digital Millennium Copyright Act? How is that relevant here? Or was it a joke of some kind?
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Old July 15, 2010, 17:27   #5
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Could someone explain what is DMCA in this context? Digital Millennium Copyright Act? How is that relevant here? Or was it a joke of some kind?
Sadly it's not a joke. The Americans have gone crazy over protecting business revenue from copyrights, so they take a hard line on innocent infringements like using copyrighted materials in *band variants. The OP is sensibly protecting himself from their avarice - I presume he lives in US jurisdiction.
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Hello? Does anyone realize that LotR is copyrighted, too? So ALL angband variants are infringing???
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Hello? Does anyone realize that LotR is copyrighted, too? So ALL angband variants are infringing???
But this is the idiocy. Copyright is about two things: the right of creators to be recognised (and nobody is denying that Angband recognises Tolkein's authorship), and the protection of revenue. Angband is free, so it can't possibly be depriving anyone of revenue.
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It could be argued that Angband is diluting the Tolkein "intellectual property", thereby reducing demand for other Tolkein-derived products and costing them money indirectly (why buy LotR Online when I can play Angband instead?). In fact, I'm pretty sure that such arguments have been made before for other free products that were based on popular franchises. Heck, Pernband got threatened into whitewashing away all the Anne McCafferey references.

Note that I'm not claiming that these arguments aren't spurious. Copyright law in the US is nuts. Unfortunately it's not like any of us have the funds to stand up to a court case.
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So, all y'all forreners out thar...

Would you please petition your governments to fly bombers over Washington simultaneously on, oh, say, hmm, when is Tolkien's birhtday, anyway? :P

Surely we can't shoot 'em ALL down...
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So, all y'all forreners out thar...

Would you please petition your governments to fly bombers over Washington simultaneously on, oh, say, hmm, when is Tolkien's birhtday, anyway? :P

Surely we can't shoot 'em ALL down...
You don't need bombers. Just normal civilian aeroplane with nuke inside. Nobody is shooting it down because it doesn't look like threat. We could of course make nuke-analog and put it in some wooden crate and drop it with parachute to...what's that place again...doorstep with written BOOM paper inside.

Building nukes is easy. Hard part is to get raw materials for it. That alerts all security agencies in all western countries. Or at least should alert them. Second hard part is to get it in the country. Some drug smugglers methods could be used for that.
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