Odd question about corpses

Jude · November 16, 2007, 08:49

OK so I just started playing Zangband. I have a human death paladin, doing pretty well. Anyway, I noticed that unlike in Vanilla, monsters leave corpses behind when I kill them. I noticed that ghouls can apparently eat these for food, but I was wondering if there is any other use for them?

I was recently playing Diablo 2 where the Necromancer can reanimate corpses, and, in what's probably the coolest spell idea in any game I've ever seen, explode them for a lot of damage to other nearby monsters. Since I have a character using death magic, I was wondering if any high level spells are going to show up that will let me do stuff with corpses or if they're just there for atmosphere and ghoul food.

And are there any other variants that do make use of this idea?

andrewdoull · November 16, 2007, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Jude

OK so I just started playing Zangband. I have a human death paladin, doing pretty well. Anyway, I noticed that unlike in Vanilla, monsters leave corpses behind when I kill them. I noticed that ghouls can apparently eat these for food, but I was wondering if there is any other use for them?

I was recently playing Diablo 2 where the Necromancer can reanimate corpses, and, in what's probably the coolest spell idea in any game I've ever seen, explode them for a lot of damage to other nearby monsters. Since I have a character using death magic, I was wondering if any high level spells are going to show up that will let me do stuff with corpses or if they're just there for atmosphere and ghoul food.

And are there any other variants that do make use of this idea?

Entroband definitely has the 'explode pets' idea, as discussed elsewhere in these forums.

Unangband will let you animate various corpses you find, with the right mage spell (from the Master school).

Other than that, I'm not sure...

Djabanete · November 16, 2007, 16:24

Some races eat them. Turning in "wanted" unique corpses will net you rewards. Both players and monsters can reanimate corpses.

But yeah, they're basically just there to get in the way.

"Oooh, a Feanorian Lamp at depth 1? Oh no, its a dead horse."

Jude · November 16, 2007, 18:01

Huh, I looked at the Zangband spoilers for both life and death magic spells, which seemed the most likely to have something along the lines of reanimating, but they have nothing aside from the summon undead spell in death magic.

Oh well.

Still, someone should put a corpse explosion spell in some variant. Not to mention ability to harvest food from corpses, etc.

Fuma · November 18, 2007, 12:17

In ToME you can make totems from the corpses and then throw the totems to summon the monster.
I have a very faint memory of seeing a "explode corpses" spell in some variant, but I may be mistaken.

Daven_26d1 · November 18, 2007, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Fuma

In ToME you can make totems from the corpses and then throw the totems to summon the monster.
I have a very faint memory of seeing a "explode corpses" spell in some variant, but I may be mistaken.

ToME also has an "explode pets" spell. I remember playing a (demonologist?) and having great fun with this.

nobody · November 20, 2007, 07:40

guys, this is the only forum that i'd actually open up a thread with such a title

Djabanete · November 20, 2007, 17:56

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Originally Posted by nobody

guys, this is the only forum that i'd actually open up a thread with such a title

I can't believe I'm passing up this opportunity to make fun of NetHack, but I'm just not feeling funny right now.

Serith · November 23, 2007, 18:03

Tome has a lot of things you can do with corpses.

First, any character can eat them, or hack them to pieces, and eat those. With some monsters this can cause things to happen, like damages, resistances, and summoning pets.

Anyone with skill points in possession can posess corpses, which allows you to use some of the monster's powers, and can change what things you can equip.

Anyone with skill points in summoning can summon monsters from totems made from corpses. This even works on uniques, but there's a chance that they won't be friendly.

Necromancers can bring corpses back to life, although the raised monster isn't always friendly.

Worshippers of Melkor can learn the corpse explosion spell at level ten, which causes all corpses surrounding the caster to explode.

There's probably more, but those are the most obvious ones.

November 16, 2007, 08:49	#1
Jude Adept Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 124	Odd question about corpses OK so I just started playing Zangband. I have a human death paladin, doing pretty well. Anyway, I noticed that unlike in Vanilla, monsters leave corpses behind when I kill them. I noticed that ghouls can apparently eat these for food, but I was wondering if there is any other use for them? I was recently playing Diablo 2 where the Necromancer can reanimate corpses, and, in what's probably the coolest spell idea in any game I've ever seen, explode them for a lot of damage to other nearby monsters. Since I have a character using death magic, I was wondering if any high level spells are going to show up that will let me do stuff with corpses or if they're just there for atmosphere and ghoul food. And are there any other variants that do make use of this idea?

November 18, 2007, 12:17	#5
Fuma Adept Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 112	In ToME you can make totems from the corpses and then throw the totems to summon the monster. I have a very faint memory of seeing a "explode corpses" spell in some variant, but I may be mistaken. __________________ www.snowleopard.org - International Snow Leopard Trust

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Djabanete Swordsman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 491	Some races eat them. Turning in "wanted" unique corpses will net you rewards. Both players and monsters can reanimate corpses. But yeah, they're basically just there to get in the way. "Oooh, a Feanorian Lamp at depth 1? Oh no, its a dead horse."

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Jude Adept Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 124	Huh, I looked at the Zangband spoilers for both life and death magic spells, which seemed the most likely to have something along the lines of reanimating, but they have nothing aside from the summon undead spell in death magic. Oh well. Still, someone should put a corpse explosion spell in some variant. Not to mention ability to harvest food from corpses, etc.

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nobody Apprentice Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 80	guys, this is the only forum that i'd actually open up a thread with such a title

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Serith Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	Tome has a lot of things you can do with corpses. First, any character can eat them, or hack them to pieces, and eat those. With some monsters this can cause things to happen, like damages, resistances, and summoning pets. Anyone with skill points in possession can posess corpses, which allows you to use some of the monster's powers, and can change what things you can equip. Anyone with skill points in summoning can summon monsters from totems made from corpses. This even works on uniques, but there's a chance that they won't be friendly. Necromancers can bring corpses back to life, although the raised monster isn't always friendly. Worshippers of Melkor can learn the corpse explosion spell at level ten, which causes all corpses surrounding the caster to explode. There's probably more, but those are the most obvious ones.

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