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Old November 2, 2011, 12:30   #601
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Thanks for offering, but you'd probably need another 10 years for all of the Unangband tiles required
Maybe, but they would look awesome.
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Old November 2, 2011, 13:19   #602
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Thanks for offering, but you'd probably need another 10 years for all of the Unangband tiles required
Unangband has: 2300 tiles painted over 3-4 months * 3 * 10 (minus a few weeks vacation every other year = approx 60000 tiles?
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Old November 2, 2011, 14:46   #603
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What you guys could do, is prepare the list of stuff needed, and post them in new separate threads. For example: "64x64 tiles for NPPAngband" or "64x64 tiles for UAngband"

As stated in my first post, the only requirement for doing this is that your game is a non-profit thingy

While I know you have other projects you want to work on, I would be extremely enthusiastic & would help in any way possible for an NPP tileset. I know I am in line and staring over Nick's shoulder , but here is a rough estimate for what it would involve:

2 new classes

About 75-80 different monsters, mostly dragons, hydras and ainur and player ghost templates.

I still have the old object set used in Angband for many years. I don't know now many types of weapons and armor Angband deleted (low priority, as I would rather delete weapon/armor types than not have a complete tileset if it becomes too large of a project.)

A couple more flavors of wands/potions/amulets/rods.

The main thing is the terrain. NPP has about 200 different types of terrain, including new types of traps, runes, and temporary spell effects (many of which you have already drawn tiles for use when spellcasting). So that's about 130-140 tiles, since you have already drawn the standard ~65 that Angband already has.

2-3 different spell powers not found in Angband that can be cast as spells.

Assuming you are willing to take that on and when/if you are ready, please let me know what I can do to help get you started.
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While I know you have other projects you want to work on, I would be extremely enthusiastic & would help in any way possible for an NPP tileset. I know I am in line and staring over Nick's shoulder , but here is a rough estimate for what it would involve:

2 new classes

About 75-80 different monsters, mostly dragons, hydras and ainur and player ghost templates.

I still have the old object set used in Angband for many years. I don't know now many types of weapons and armor Angband deleted (low priority, as I would rather delete weapon/armor types than not have a complete tileset if it becomes too large of a project.)

A couple more flavors of wands/potions/amulets/rods.

The main thing is the terrain. NPP has about 200 different types of terrain, including new types of traps, runes, and temporary spell effects (many of which you have already drawn tiles for use when spellcasting). So that's about 130-140 tiles, since you have already drawn the standard ~65 that Angband already has.

2-3 different spell powers not found in Angband that can be cast as spells.

Assuming you are willing to take that on and when/if you are ready, please let me know what I can do to help get you started.
Rob/Bob Fiala contacted me a while ago regarding the terrain tiles, so I got a list of those, basically the terrains that David Gervais has in his tileset.

I'll put up new threads myself, and hopefully the discussion for each variant stays within it's thread, for easy reading
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Old November 2, 2011, 22:16   #605
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Unangband has: 2300 tiles painted over 3-4 months * 3 * 10 (minus a few weeks vacation every other year = approx 60000 tiles?
Let's see (this is an over estimate):

176 effects (spell types) x 8 directions
1011 features
1059 objects + 640 flavours
1380 monster races x up to 64 monster ego types (maybe more, if I get class egos working)
13 classes x 26 playable races x up to 32 styles (more if you include substyles like Pyromancer)

In reality, it is probably more like 2 to 3 times the level of effort of Angband, since e.g. the 1011 features includes features which look identical to other features.
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Let's see (this is an over estimate):

176 effects (spell types) x 8 directions
1011 features
1059 objects + 640 flavours
1380 monster races x up to 64 monster ego types (maybe more, if I get class egos working)
13 classes x 26 playable races x up to 32 styles (more if you include substyles like Pyromancer)

In reality, it is probably more like 2 to 3 times the level of effort of Angband, since e.g. the 1011 features includes features which look identical to other features.
I bet most of the Angband V tiles could be used, and variants of tiles are less time consuming to create than pure new tiles. I'm not sure, but I think the Angband tile folder now contains something like 2300 tiles (and growing as I add files for the variants)
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Old November 4, 2011, 23:55   #607
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1. I made a Paypal donations button but I'm not "actively" using it anywhere. Strangely Paypal does not accept the currency I need the most: "experienced programmers"
Hopefully this link worked, because I just sent a small thank you for your work in ToME and Angband. Can't wait to play the Angband tiles.
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Hopefully this link worked, because I just sent a small thank you for your work in ToME and Angband. Can't wait to play the Angband tiles.
Donation received and it's appreciated a lot! Thank you very much bio_hazard
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I bet most of the Angband V tiles could be used, and variants of tiles are less time consuming to create than pure new tiles. I'm not sure, but I think the Angband tile folder now contains something like 2300 tiles (and growing as I add files for the variants)
I don't disagree - I just think there are more worthy causes at the moment.

Will think about this more after I get the next version of Unangband out.
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A bunch of statues created for ToME, based on Angband player tiles:

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