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Old April 11, 2011, 21:51   #1
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Favorite Angbanding keyboard?

My current keyboard is a budget model bought through Wal-Mart's website. It is actually quite a nice keyboard, especially for the price, but it is not quite the ideal keyboard for Angband. It is designed to be compact, and so there seem to be subtle differences in certain key locations. I am a touch typist, and I use the roguelike keyset to try to take advantage of this, so these small differences can be noticeable at times. Also, the feel of the keys is not bad, but far from the best.

I like the tactile, mechanical feel of keyboards from way back in the day. The old IBM keyboards were very nice, with lots of feedback, although a keyboard built exactly like that would probably cost a fortune today. I remember the Focus line of keyboards. They had neat gadgets like a built-in calculator and programmable function keys, but what I really liked was the feel of the keys, because they were very similar to the old IBMs. The company doesn't seem to be around anymore, at least not in the searches I have done.

Does anyone have a favorite keyboard they use that seems especially suited to Angband? The ease of doing Alt, Ctrl, and Shift combos with keys, along with good touch typing feel, would qualify a keyboard as ideal. I don't want to break the bank; I wouldn't spend more than $30 on a new keyboard. Suggestions, anyone?
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Old April 11, 2011, 21:58   #2
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Sounds like you're remembering the old Model M keyboards that IBM used to make, which had a special "clicky" spring mechanism. You can actually buy modern versions of these keyboards (e.g. link). Might be worth checking out, though they are kinda noisy.

Myself, I just use the keyboard that came with my (Apple) computer when I bought it. It's held up well and I'm used to the layout.
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Old April 11, 2011, 22:39   #3
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Sounds like you're remembering the old Model M keyboards that IBM used to make, which had a special "clicky" spring mechanism. You can actually buy modern versions of these keyboards (e.g. link). Might be worth checking out, though they are kinda noisy.

Myself, I just use the keyboard that came with my (Apple) computer when I bought it. It's held up well and I'm used to the layout.
Derakon, my hero. I have two original IBM PS/2 keyboards from 1984 which are still delightfully noisy, though one of them has a temperamental connector and the other has a dodgy shift key. I was dreading their eventual demise but you have saved me from the hell of quiet typing. Thank you.
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Old April 11, 2011, 22:59   #4
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that reminds me of this:
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...e-commodore-64
The return of the commodore 64
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Old April 11, 2011, 23:07   #5
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Ah, mechanical switch keyboards. Too bad they're expensive

http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/4...ard-guide.html
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Old April 12, 2011, 01:27   #6
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that reminds me of this:
http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...e-commodore-64
The return of the commodore 64
Uh, I just have to have one of those. Even if it isn't useful.

I just hope that they fit that OS in some sort of chip so that it starts like the original one, Flip the switch and it's on, no waits whatsoever.

It also looks like that has a fan. It needs to be silent. I sick and tired of constant humming wherever I see a computers. I don't care if it is 1/8 of the modern computer speed if it just is silent.

Here is a link to product: http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx

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Old April 12, 2011, 01:36   #7
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It also looks like that has a fan. It needs to be silent. I sick and tired of constant humming wherever I see a computers. I don't care if it is 1/8 of the modern computer speed if it just is silent.
This is mostly just a matter of build quality, I'm sure. My Mac only spins up its fan to audible levels when it's really chugging hard; if you were to buy a similarly-well-designed Windows box I'm sure it could be just as quiet. You end up paying more, of course, and most people treat computers as commodities these days, so they aren't willing to pay for quality.
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This is mostly just a matter of build quality, I'm sure. My Mac only spins up its fan to audible levels when it's really chugging hard; if you were to buy a similarly-well-designed Windows box I'm sure it could be just as quiet. You end up paying more, of course, and most people treat computers as commodities these days, so they aren't willing to pay for quality.
All desktop Macs I have seen are just as noisy as PC:s. Laptops are nice.

When I say silent I really mean completely silent. We do have one Lenovo desktop mini-tower in work that is so silent that I can't tell if it is on or off without seeing the lights in front of it, but I can't say is it really silent or just silent enough that all the other background humming is just masking the noise it makes.

Next time I walk into PC-store to buy new computer my first requirement is silent, everything else is secondary.
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Next time I walk into PC-store to buy new computer my first requirement is silent, everything else is secondary.
Replacing case fans isn't that hard. Of course, a flimsy case with be noisy regardless.
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Replacing case fans isn't that hard. Of course, a flimsy case with be noisy regardless.
Problem with "replacing" is that I need them to be removed, not replaced. That leads to overheating.
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