Angband.oook.cz
Angband.oook.cz
AboutDownloadVariantsLadderForumCompetitionSpoilersComicScreenshotsFunniesLinks

Go Back   Angband Forums > Angband > Vanilla

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 16, 2011, 01:24   #31
buzzkill
Prophet
 
buzzkill's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 2,908
Donated: $8
buzzkill is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malak Darkhunter View Post
To be fair some new people to the game could quickly become frustrated without lack of progress and constant dying, this gives them an option to actualy just play so to speak.
Obviously the problem my_hobbit is having is lack of knowledge of rogue-likes in general. It's not the monsters that are killing him. It's lack of a FAQ for absolute beginners. Cheat death isn't going to help with that, and I feel that cheating (death) is poor advice to give anybody who has barely had a chance to get his feet wet.
__________________
www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.
buzzkill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 01:29   #32
buzzkill
Prophet
 
buzzkill's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 2,908
Donated: $8
buzzkill is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malak Darkhunter View Post
You might not have any other option depending on the circumstances.
What the hell are you talking about? Hypothetically, what would these circumstances be, and how is anything concerning banishment/mass banishment relevant to a player who can't surpass dlvl 10?

Maybe you should turn cheat death off?
__________________
www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.
buzzkill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 02:28   #33
Malak Darkhunter
Knight
 
Malak Darkhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: US
Age: 36
Posts: 677
Malak Darkhunter is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzkill View Post
What the hell are you talking about? Hypothetically, what would these circumstances be, and how is anything concerning banishment/mass banishment relevant to a player who can't surpass dlvl 10?

Maybe you should turn cheat death off?

lay off the trolling, please, why does a few people on these forums turn everything into an argument?
Use your head a little bit, if you think i'm stupid, It's not uncommon to find scrolls of banishment in the black market(Go figure)duh. You can amass enough wealth to buy one by level 10. And since you can't seem to look into what situations might arise, I will explain it to you, your staff of teleport might burn up, and everything else, but guess what you just might have a scroll of banishment to save the day.
before you think that your right, you know some people that's new to the game might just enjoy playing it, and learning it before getting serious, but anyway that's his choice, he can play the way he wants to . Bite me.
__________________
let me try this workaround...oh crap computer just went black
Malak Darkhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 02:46   #34
buzzkill
Prophet
 
buzzkill's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 2,908
Donated: $8
buzzkill is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malak Darkhunter View Post
if you think i'm stupid... your staff of teleport might burn up, and everything else, but guess what you just might have a scroll of banishment to save the day.
Forgive me wise one, I didn't realize that scrolls of banishment were fireproof, and otherwise indestructible, which they would have to be for this to make even the slightest bit of sense.

And even if that were the case, which it isn't, there are literally hundreds of more piratical solutions. Say no to drugs!
__________________
www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.
buzzkill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 02:57   #35
Malak Darkhunter
Knight
 
Malak Darkhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: US
Age: 36
Posts: 677
Malak Darkhunter is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzkill View Post
Forgive me wise one, I didn't realize that scrolls of banishment were fireproof, and otherwise indestructible, which they would have to be for this to make even the slightest bit of sense.

And even if that were the case, which it isn't, there are literally hundreds of more piratical solutions. Say no to drugs!
And this isn't a viable way of escaping death? you must be a less knowledgable player than I thought.
I didn't start this crap, i simply mentioned something that nobody else did, quit thinking you are the only one who has an opinion.
I dread even trying to discuss anything about this game anymore, because of you and a few others ready to verbally beat the hell out of somebody for their suggestions or ideas. This is why nobody want's to maintain angband, because of idiots like you. That's my final say on it, fool.
__________________
let me try this workaround...oh crap computer just went black
Malak Darkhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 03:11   #36
Derakon
Prophet
 
Derakon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,809
Derakon is on a distinguished road
Okay, this is getting ridiculous. Cool it, guys.

Malak: the odds of having a Banishment scroll before even 1000' are exceedingly slim, let alone by 500'. Given that, I'd rather not introduce concepts that are practically irrelevant to someone who's still learning the more important basics of the game. There's time enough to learn about that stuff later.

Both of you: it should be possible to disagree with someone without being argumentative about it. No need to go "what the hell are you on about" or "lay off the trolling". Nobody in this thread is trolling. Let's keep things amicable, hey?
Derakon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 07:06   #37
dying_is_my_hobbit
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 16
dying_is_my_hobbit is on a distinguished road
Thanks Derakon for the good points, the fact that the people having an argument are all just trying to help makes it worse.

Malak, thanks for the advice, but my opinion as a noob is that losing from the beginning the fear of dying would at the same time remove the feeling/ambiance of the game and probably prevent me from learning the reflexes. I guess it depends of the player but people trying this kind of games today are probably more here for the particular experience than for an easy and welcoming game.

It's totally true that I'm not used to rogelike games (which may be a little strange because I was yet coding on unix 20 years ago and am still on linux) hence maybe some difficulties with a few conventions (and I confirm that the interface isn't always totally clear and may be a little too much tuned for people having a prealable knowledge - eg my misadventure with the scrolls).

Thanks all !
dying_is_my_hobbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 10:01   #38
thapper
Adept
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sweden
Posts: 162
thapper is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by dying_is_my_hobbit View Post
(yes yes, über noob, I was just lured last night into the game due to the wonderful graphics and a post on reddit...)
What was the post on reddit about? I'm curious!
thapper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 10:11   #39
dying_is_my_hobbit
Rookie
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 16
dying_is_my_hobbit is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by thapper View Post
What was the post on reddit about? I'm curious!
The link : http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20...SCIIGames.html

(the words that made me try Angband were "single player" as I am the kind of player who read printed papers and program freewares while playing and chatting with my wife... not really a hardcore gamer...)

The comments :
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/commen...i_linux_games/
dying_is_my_hobbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 16, 2011, 10:59   #40
thapper
Adept
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sweden
Posts: 162
thapper is on a distinguished road
Yeah, I can clearly see that those screen shots lured you into the game
thapper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zangband tk Noob Question (Big Dragon Inside) Camcolit Variants 11 April 12, 2011 02:07
endgame mage - best way to deal damage? bebo Vanilla 8 June 20, 2010 21:21
A noob question about the ladder Ignatius Variants 2 December 7, 2008 10:03
Noob Question for 3.0.9 Arphod Vanilla 4 November 8, 2008 03:36
[Z] Help a noob Pwnography Variants 2 September 3, 2007 17:03


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:52.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.