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The Angband Ladder: Andor Smith, Noldor Feanor no-class by HugoTheGreat2011

  [Sil 1.1.1 Character Dump]

 Name   Andor Smith   Age    1,260       Str   3 =  2  +1
 Sex    Male          Height   7'1       Dex   6 =  5          +1
 Race   Noldor        Weight   163       Con   5 =  4  +1
 House  Feanor                           Gra   3

 Game Turn   25,827   Melee  (+23,3d9)   Melee       23 = 15  +6  +1  +1
 Exp Pool       767   Bows    (+7,1d8)   Archery      7 =  0  +6      +1
 Total Exp   65,667   Armor [+22,5-13]   Evasion     22 = 15  +6  +1
 Burden       123.6                      Stealth     13 = 11  +6  -4
 Max Burden   172.8   Health     -2:49   Perception  20 =  6  +3 +11
 Depth         900'   Voice      34:34   Will        10 =  7  +3
 Min Depth     900'                      Smithing    14 = 10  +3      +1
 Light Radius     3                      Song         4 =  1  +3

 You are the only child of a warrior from the house of Feanor. You have
 light blue eyes, straight auburn hair, and a fair complexion.






  [Last Messages]

> The door crashes open!
> The Ancient emerald serpent bites you.
> You have been poisoned.
> You hit the Ancient emerald serpent.
> The Ancient emerald serpent bites you.
> You have been badly poisoned.
> You hit the Ancient emerald serpent.
> The Ancient emerald serpent breathes poisonous gas.
> You have been severly poisoned.
> You hit the Ancient emerald serpent.
> You have slain the Ancient emerald serpent.
> The Vampire lord claws you!
> *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! ***
> You miss the Vampire lord.
> You die.


  [Screenshot]

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  [Equipment]

a) The Bastard Sword 'Anglachel' (+1,3d5) [+1] 5.0 lb
   It cuts easily through armour.  It makes you encounter more
   dangerous creatures (even when not worn).  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  It does extra damage when wielded
   with both hands.  
b) a Shortbow (+0,1d7) 1.5 lb
   It can shoot arrows 12 squares (with your current strength).
c) a Topaz Ring of Perception <+4>
   It improves your perception by 4.  
d) The Ring of Melian <+7>
   It improves your perception by 7.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Channeling.  
e) an Obsidian Amulet of Constitution <+1>
   It increases your constitution by 1.  It sustains your 
   constitution.  
f) a Brass Lantern of Brightness (with 5192 turns of light)
   It burns brightly, increasing your light radius by an
   additional square.  
g) The Mail Corslet of Andor Smith (-1) [-3,2d4] <+1>
   It increases your strength by 1.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  
h) The Cloak of Andor Smith (+1) [+2]
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
i) (nothing)
j) a Great Helm of True Sight [-1,1d3]
   It provides resistance to blindness and hallucination.  It
   grants you the ability to see invisible creatures.  
k) a Set of Gauntlets of Swordplay [+0,1d1]
   It grants you the ability: Parry.  
l) The Pair of Boots of Irime [+1,1d1]
   It sustains your dexterity.  It lights your path behind you.  
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
m) The Arrow 'Dailir' (+11)
   It cannot be harmed by the elements.  It can be shot 12
   squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 52 Arrows (+3)
   They can be shot 12 squares (with your current strength and bow).


  [Inventory]

a) 8 Pale Green Herbs of Rage
b) 5 Pale Herbs of Healing
c) 4 Fragments of Lembas
d) 2 Clear Potions of Miruvor
e) 4 Bright Orange Potions of Voice
f) 4 Violet Potions of Quickness
g) 2 Grey Potions of Elemental Resistance
h) 3 Azure Potions of Strength
i) 2 Copper Speckled Potions of Dexterity
j) 5 Crimson Potions of Constitution
k) a Black Potion of Grace
l) a Twisted Staff of Freedom (7 charges)
m) a Marble Ring of Warmth
   It provides resistance to cold.  
n) a Shadow Cloak of Stealth [+3] <+4>
   It improves your stealth by 4.  It creates an unnatural
   darkness.  
o) a Great Helm of Clarity [-1,1d3]
   It provides resistance to confusion, stunning, and 
   hallucination.  
p) The Dwarf Mask of Andor Smith [-2,1d2]
   It provides resistance to fire.  It cannot be harmed by the
   elements.  It grants you the ability: Lore-Master.  
q) a Pair of Boots of Softest Tread [+0,1d1] <+3>
   It improves your stealth by 3.  
r) a Pair of Greaves of Free Action [-1,1d2]
   It grants you freedom of movement.  
s) The Shortsword of Amrod (+1,1d7) [+1] <+2> 1.5 lb
   It improves your stealth and perception by 2.  It grants you 
   freedom of movement.  It cannot be harmed by the elements.  
t) a Bastard Sword of Nargothrond (-2,3d4) [+1] 4.0 lb
   It slays dragons and raukar.  It does extra damage when
   wielded with both hands.  
u) The War Hammer of Andor Smith (-2,4d1) <+3> 5.0 lb
   It improves your smithing by 3.  It makes you encounter more
   dangerous creatures (even when not worn).  It cannot be
   harmed by the elements.  It does extra damage when wielded
   with both hands.  
v) a Mattock of Belegost (-5,5d2) <+3> 10.2 lb
   It improves your tunneling by 3.  It requires both hands to
   wield it properly.  


  [Notes]

Andor Smith of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 5 Feb 2013

    Turn     Depth    Note

       4     50 ft    (Dodging)
     460    100 ft    (Power)
   1,163    150 ft    (Finesse)
   2,401    300 ft    (Sprinting)
   3,579    350 ft    Encountered Boldog, the Merciless
   3,770    350 ft    Slew Boldog, the Merciless
   3,936    350 ft    FUCK YOU RNG
   3,936    350 ft    Damn Herb of Weakness
   3,981    350 ft    Found The Pair of Boots of Irime
   4,112    350 ft    Thank you RNG for the !STR to restore it 1 => 2
   6,142    400 ft    (Eye for Detail)
   7,266    400 ft    Found The Spear of Boldog (from 350 ft)
   7,335    400 ft    Encountered Uldor, the Accursed
   8,058    400 ft    Slew Uldor, the Accursed
   8,653    450 ft    (Enchantment)
   9,161    450 ft    (Keen Senses)
   9,345    450 ft    Encountered Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
   9,613    450 ft    Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
  10,071    450 ft    (Armoursmith)
  10,117    450 ft    (Artifice)
  10,873    450 ft    Made a Dwarf Mask [-2,1d2]  8.0 lb
  10,874    450 ft    STUPID RNG
  10,874    450 ft    My GRA got KO'ed to -1
  11,533    450 ft    Found a needed !GRA at 450ft
  12,926    450 ft    Made The Dwarf Mask of Andor Smith [-2,1d2]  7.3 lb
  12,928    450 ft    Found The Arrow 'Dailir'
  13,245    450 ft    (Weaponsmith)
  13,595    450 ft    Made The Cloak of Andor Smith (+1) [+2]  2.0 lb
  13,664    550 ft    Encountered Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
  16,433    550 ft    Don't have enough points to get Artistry...to make 
                      something good 
  16,433    550 ft    Useless 2 usage forge at 550ft
  16,628    650 ft    A Giant drops an Amulet of CON <+1> at 650ft...Good 
                      timing 
  16,761    650 ft    Found The Bastard Sword 'Anglachel'
  17,201    650 ft    Ah ha! Found Anglachel on ground at 650ft
  18,367    650 ft    Made The War Hammer of Andor Smith (-2,4d1) <+3>  5.0 
                      lb 
  18,451    650 ft    (Disguise)
  19,151    700 ft    (Vanish)
  20,197    750 ft    Found The Shortsword of Amrod
  20,203    750 ft    (Charge)
  20,437    750 ft    (Dexterity)
  20,801    750 ft    Destroying Boldog's spear
  20,817    750 ft    Encountered Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  20,830    750 ft    Encountered Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  20,843    750 ft    Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
  20,849    750 ft    Slew Oikeroi, Guard of Tevildo
  20,906    750 ft    (Momentum)
  21,212    750 ft    Found The Ring of Melian
  21,500    800 ft    (Rauko-Bane)
  21,839    800 ft    Encountered Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  22,110    800 ft    (Knock Back)
  22,216    800 ft    Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
  22,439    800 ft    I need Focused Attack + Concentration...
  23,252    800 ft    Made The Mail Corslet of Andor Smith (-1) [-3,2d4] 
                      <+1>  27.0 lb 
  23,379    850 ft    Encountered Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  23,561    850 ft    Destroyed Vallach, Balrog of Sudden Flame
  24,273    850 ft    Found The Helm of Curufin
  24,279    850 ft    (Focused attack)
  24,989    850 ft    (Curse Breaking)
  24,990    850 ft    Screw waiting for Sanctity staves...
  25,030    850 ft    Chucking out !Voice
  25,030    850 ft    ...I changed my mind.
  25,444    900 ft    (Concentration)

  25,826    900 ft    Slain by poison.
  25,826    900 ft    Died on 06 February 2013.




  ['Score' 018074173]


Posted on 6.2.2013 06:31
Last updated on 7.2.2013 04:38

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On 6.2.2013 06:31 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Trying to get the hang of Smithing...

I've come a long way to get to this. Any comments?

On 6.2.2013 06:35 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Having a Perception of 20 assures that I won't get lost. But...I *really should* get Focused attack and Concentration to take advantage of this.

And I am soooooooo glad I destroyed Vallach.

On 6.2.2013 06:43 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Note to self: make a War Hammer with Masterpiece.

Also, my favorite question:
What should I toss out?

On 6.2.2013 06:47 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Anyone know what's the highest achieved Perception in Sil? For myself, it's 20, which is very high, let alone the fact I usually do away with Perception...But in this game, it's a different story....

On 6.2.2013 09:24 Psi wrote:
My highest perception was 24 (7 points invested + 17 grace). I'd use one oil and chuck the other. If you are not going the assassin route, I'd probably stop carrying around all the stealth gear too.

On 6.2.2013 14:14 jdh wrote:
Artistry + Enchantment can make some spectacular items, as can Jeweller (though your rings can't really be beat for perception), and you get many more uses out of forges that way. That advice may be a little late for this game, though. I typically use the second forge I find to make some smithing equipment: a pair of gloves of the forge +2 or +3, and a crown of grace, then wait (skipping forges even) until I have enough experience to forge the smithing equipment and then final equipment I want. (I very frequently find a weapon with +1 grace in the dungeon to use until I can smith hammers, or a weapon of the shadows to boost Song of Aule, and sometimes find an amulet of grace +1. You can also make a Lesser Jewel of Grace +1 easily.) High difficulty items take so much time to forge that it usually isn't worth forging ones you plan to replace later.

If you get lucky and find smithing artifacts, which seems to happen to other people regularly, it'll save you many turns. Maeglin's armor might be the easiest to get since he drops it.

If you don't want to invest much more experience into smithing, you might want to grab artistry and make a nice Set of Gloves/Gauntlets of Strength and a Dwarf Mask of Clarity [-1,1d2/1d3]. to free up some inventory. Find some Mithril and make a Feanorian Lamp of True Sight, if you can. I'm also puzzled why you didn't put at least an elemental resistance on your cloak. Jeweller to make an Amulet of Constitution +2 or rings of accuracy/evasion +3 are possibly also within your reach.

If you do want to invest much more into smithing, then I'd hurry to 950' and get as much experience as you can, but it'll be tight.

Don't forget that Lembas restore 1 point of grace (per your notes about being drained).

On 6.2.2013 20:22 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
My Smithing score was probably too low or I forgot to consider FireResist at the time when I made the cloak.

On 6.2.2013 23:57 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
The other issue I have: I have a *really hard time* knowing EXACTLY WHEN to increase Smithing Points to a certain level before reaching a particular depth...e.g. making a Cloak with ResistFire before 500ft.

On 7.2.2013 00:52 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Also, I didn't know I could use BOTH Artistry and Enchantment SIMULTANEOUSLY to forge equipment!

On 7.2.2013 01:50 jdh wrote:
Yes, you can use them together. In a couple recent games I have used the first forge to make a Dwarf Mask [-1,1d2], since it's pretty cheap and fire resist is so important. Alternatives are a shield of frost (with enchantment) or ring of frost (if you go with jewellery). Or you can make a +2 shield of deflection, etc. Those +1 and +2 point bonuses from artistry and enchantment aren't as impressive as what you get from artifice, but they add up effectively and are much cheaper.

Cloak of Warmth protects against cold and is available through enchantment; and of course there's the ring version. And poison resist can be put on armor.

I think several smithers tend to pool experience aggressively, avoiding spending it unless they need to to survive, so they can dump points into smithing when they find a forge. One strategy I've tried (but haven't succeeded at yet) would be to use the first forge to make three +2 Stealth pieces with enchantment, then dive aggressively for experience from levels and seeing monsters, then come back up, use that for smithing and kill things to build your melee.

On 7.2.2013 02:07 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
What different skill point distributions does everyone use? I tend to start with 5 Melee and 7 Evasion, and add points onto Smithing once my Melee and Evasion are both at least 13, to fend off mid-game monsters. Then I start adng points onto Smithing gradually. I usually like making Dwarf Masks with Lore-Master, to make mid game easier too.

On 7.2.2013 02:07 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
What different skill point distributions does everyone use? I tend to start with 5 Melee and 7 Evasion, and add points onto Smithing once my Melee and Evasion are both at least 13, to fend off mid-game monsters. Then I start adng points onto Smithing gradually. I usually like making Dwarf Masks with Lore-Master, to make mid game easier too.

On 7.2.2013 04:38 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Game Over:

Taking on an Ancient Emerald Serpent without PoisonResist is a little crazy...It breathed on me for a Poison counter in the 40s. When I recovered, my HP was <10, just low enough for the nearby Vampire lord to finish me off.

On 7.2.2013 05:02 debo wrote:
Dude you had miruvor and healing!!

On 7.2.2013 06:18 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Heh. Yes, I had Healing sources, indeed. I should have had 2nd thoughts before taking the vampire lord with <10 HP.

:/

On 7.2.2013 09:32 Psi wrote:
These days if I am running a smith, I will go with 5 Melee, 3 Evasion and 6 smithing so I can take artistry straight away. As long as you can survive to the first forge, you can then make decent enough equipment to make the next few levels a breeze. This start has been shamelessly copied from HM...

You registered surprise earlier that you could use enchantment with artistry - even better is that you can use artistry with artifice to produce some really awesome artefacts - assuming you can get your smithing high enough!

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