[Sil 1.0.1 Character Dump]
Name Bredrimor Age 4,336 Str 11 = 2 +9
Sex Male Height 6'3 Dex 9 = 4 +5
Race Noldor Weight 165 Con 5 = 3 +2
House Feanor Gra 16 = 5 +9 +2
Game Turn 50,978 Melee (+23,6d22) Melee 23 = 17 +9 -3
Exp Pool 4,682 Bows (+11,1d15) Archery 11 = 0 +9 +1 +1
Total Exp 115,982 Armor [+21,6-18] Evasion 21 = 13 +9 -1
Burden 150.4 Stealth -1 = 0 +9 -2 -8
Max Burden 742.3 Health 49:49 Perception 19 = 3 +16
Depth 0' Voice 340:739 Will 22 = 6 +16
Min Depth 0' Song Elbereth Smithing 18 = 1 +16 +1
Light Radius 4 Mastery Song 36 = 15 +16 +5
You are one of two children of a smith from the house of Feanor. You
have light grey eyes, straight black hair, and a fair complexion.
[Last Messages]
> There is a pile of rubble in the way! <3x>
> There is a wall in the way!
> The Troll guard flees in terror!
> You charge the Troll guard.
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> You feel something roll beneath your feet.
> You charge the Orc champion!
> You have slain the Orc champion.
> You see 22 Arrows.
> You see a Turquoise Ring of Sustenance.
> There is a pile of rubble in the way! <4x>
> You miss the Troll guard.
> You hit the Troll guard.
> You have slain the Troll guard.
> You see a Brass Trumpet of Thunder.
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[Equipment]
a) The Mattock of H.Mushroom Esq (-4,6d4) <+4> 16.5 lb
It increases your strength by 4. It improves your tunneling
by 4. It draws powerful creatures to your level and enrages
nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements. It
requires both hands to wield it properly.
b) a Shortbow of Doriath (+0,1d8) 1.7 lb
It slays wolves and spiders. It can shoot arrows 20 squares
(with your current strength).
c) The Ring of Retaliation <+2>
It increases your dexterity by 2. It improves your damage
sides by 2. It provides resistance to fire and poison. It
draws powerful creatures to your level and enrages nearby
creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements.
d) The Ring of Thumping <+2>
It increases your strength by 2. It improves your damage
sides by 2. It enrages nearby creatures. It cannot be
harmed by the elements.
e) The Amulet 'Amazing Grace' <+3>
It increases your grace by 3. It improves your song by 3.
It reduces your need for food and lights the dungeon around
you. It draws powerful creatures to your level and enrages
nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements.
f) The Lesser Jewel of Provocation <+2>
It increases your grace by 2. It provides resistance to
blindness. It lights the dungeon around you and burns
brightly, increasing your light radius by an additional square.
It grants you the ability to see invisible creatures, but it
also draws powerful creatures to your level and enrages
nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements.
g) The Mithril Corslet of Life (+1) [-1,2d5] <+1>
It increases your dexterity, constitution, and grace by 1.
It provides resistance to poison. It draws powerful
creatures to your level and enrages nearby creatures. It
cannot be harmed by the elements.
h) The Cloak of Bedlam [+1] <+2>
It increases your grace by 2. It improves your song by 2.
It provides resistance to cold and fire. It draws powerful
creatures to your level and enrages nearby creatures. It
cannot be harmed by the elements.
i) (nothing)
j) The Dwarf Mask of Awesomeness [-2,1d2] <+1>
It increases your strength, constitution, and grace by 1. It
provides resistance to fire and fear. It draws powerful
creatures to your level and enrages nearby creatures. It
cannot be harmed by the elements. It grants you the
abilities: Majesty and Listen.
k) The Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'No Escape' [+0,1d1] <+2>
It increases your strength by 2. It improves your damage
sides by 2. It draws powerful creatures to your level and
enrages nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the
elements. It grants you the ability: Opportunist.
l) The Pair of Leather Boots of the Hunter [+1,1d2] <+2>
It increases your dexterity by 2. It grants you great speed
and freedom of movement, but it also draws powerful creatures
to your level and enrages nearby creatures. It cannot be
harmed by the elements.
m) 99 Arrows (+3)
They can be shot 20 squares (with your current strength and bow).
n) 99 Arrows (Poisoned)
They are branded with venom. They can be shot 20 squares
(with your current strength and bow).
[Inventory]
a) 8 Grey Herbs of Healing
b) a Mottled Herb of Restoration
c) 9 Fragments of Lembas
d) 18 Clear Potions of Miruvor
e) 24 Yellow Potions of Healing
f) 8 Dark Blue Potions of Voice
g) 6 Vermilion Potions of Strength
h) 11 Golden Potions of Dexterity
i) 10 Violet Potions of Constitution
j) 3 Cloudy Potions of Grace
k) a Yew Staff of Revelations (0 charges)
l) a Twisted Staff of Treasures (0 charges)
m) 3 Silmarils
It sustains your grace. It grants you the ability to see
invisible creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements.
n) The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin [-1,2d4] <+3>
It improves your smithing by 3. It provides resistance to
poison. It increases your hunger. It cannot be harmed by
the elements.
o) The Helm of Lore [-1,1d2] <+4>
It increases your grace by 4. It creates an unnatural
darkness, draws powerful creatures to your level, and enrages
nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the elements. It
grants you the ability: Lore-Master.
p) The Set of Leather Gloves of Creation <+4>
It improves your smithing by 4. It cannot be harmed by the
elements. It grants you the abilities: Weaponsmith and
Masterpiece.
q) The Dagger of the Smith (+0,1d5) <+3> 0.8 lb
It increases your grace by 3. It improves your song by 3.
It can be thrown effectively (20 squares). It creates an
unnatural darkness, draws powerful creatures to your level,
and enrages nearby creatures. It cannot be harmed by the
elements.
r) The Halberd of Happy Smiting (-2,2d12) [+1] <+2> 6.0 lb
It increases your strength by 2. It is branded with frost.
It cuts easily through armour. It enrages nearby creatures.
It cannot be harmed by the elements. It grants you the
ability: Rapid Attack. It requires both hands to wield it
properly. It counts as a type of polearm.
s) 99 Pieces of Mithril
t) 99 Pieces of Mithril
[Notes]
Bredrimor of the Noldor
Entered Angband on 2 Feb 2012
Turn Depth Note
0 50 ft (Charge)
0 50 ft (Jeweller)
0 50 ft (Song of Elbereth)
1,003 150 ft Found The Shortsword 'Dagmor'
1,392 150 ft (Dodging)
2,700 300 ft (Sprinting)
2,768 300 ft Slew Gorgol, the Butcher
4,176 400 ft Found The Dagger of Nargil
4,907 300 ft (Keen Senses)
5,089 300 ft (Armoursmith)
5,089 300 ft (Enchantment)
5,915 400 ft Slew Orcobal, Champion of the Orcs
5,971 400 ft (Flanking)
6,724 400 ft (Song of Aule)
8,032 450 ft (Power)
9,076 500 ft Slew Gilim, the Giant of Eruman
9,347 500 ft (Artifice)
9,737 500 ft Made The Helm of Knowledge
9,740 500 ft Found The Dagger of Azaghal
10,454 500 ft (Unwavering Voice)
11,572 550 ft Slew Uldor, the Accursed
12,368 600 ft (Inner Light)
13,265 600 ft Found The Shortbow of Celegorm
14,070 650 ft (Grace)
14,195 650 ft Made The Cloak of Coincidence
14,877 700 ft Slew Umuiyan, the Doorkeeper
15,680 700 ft Slew Nan, the Giant
15,680 700 ft Found The Greatsword 'Glend'
16,559 750 ft Made The Dwarf Mask of Terror
17,258 750 ft Entered Cat Fortress
17,358 750 ft (Knock Back)
18,008 800 ft Made The Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'Deadly Em
18,865 800 ft Found The Longsword 'Orcrist'
19,007 800 ft (Grace)
19,662 850 ft Slew Tevildo, Prince of Cats
21,091 900 ft Slew Maeglin, Betrayer of Gondolin
21,107 900 ft Found The Galvorn Armour of Maeglin
22,390 850 ft Made The Pair of Leather Boots of Ease
23,124 950 ft Slew Dagorhir, the Elfbane
23,615 950 ft Entered Chambers of Thu
24,374 950 ft Found The Round Shield of Angrod
24,515 950 ft Made The Mithril Corslet of Vitality
25,658 850 ft Made The Set of Leather Gloves of Creation
26,013 900 ft Entered Ungoliant's lair
26,411 950 ft Entered Hoard of the Worm of Greed
26,838 950 ft Made The Halberd of Happy Smiting
26,854 950 ft (Song of Sharpness)
26,854 950 ft (Woven Themes)
26,854 950 ft (Song of Mastery)
26,854 950 ft (Hardiness)
26,854 950 ft (Clarity)
27,019 950 ft Slew Glaurung, the Deceiver
28,495 950 ft Made The Ring of Thumping
28,534 1,000 ft Entered Morgoth's throne room
28,552 1,000 ft Slew Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
28,566 1,000 ft Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
28,581 1,000 ft Slew Gorthaur, Servant of Morgoth
28,625 1,000 ft Slew Morgoth, Lord of Darkness
28,627 1,000 ft Found The Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
28,696 1,000 ft Slew Ancalagon the Black
28,778 1,000 ft Found The Kite Shield of Hador
28,778 1,000 ft Found The Bat-Fell of Thuringwethil
28,962 1,000 ft Destroyed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
29,061 1,000 ft Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
29,062 1,000 ft Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
29,064 1,000 ft Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
29,065 1,000 ft Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
29,065 1,000 ft Cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown
29,066 1,000 ft Found The Massive Iron Crown of Morgoth
29,933 950 ft Slew Smaug the Golden
29,945 950 ft Found The Battle Axe of Hurin
31,275 900 ft Found The Helm of Curufin
31,905 950 ft Found The Greatsword of Saithnar
31,905 950 ft Found The Dagger 'Angrist'
32,210 950 ft Made The Lesser Jewel of Provocation
34,217 950 ft Made The Cloak of Bedlam
34,630 950 ft Made The Dagger of the Smith
35,772 950 ft Slew Shelob, Spider of Darkness
36,104 950 ft Slew Draugluin, Sire of Werewolves
36,109 950 ft Found The Wolf-Hame of Draugluin
36,419 950 ft Destroyed The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
36,419 950 ft Found The Deathblade 'Delmereth'
37,152 950 ft Made The Dwarf Mask of Awesomeness
37,332 950 ft Found The Shortsword of Amrod
37,953 950 ft Made The Helm of Lore
39,185 950 ft Made The Cloak of Grace
39,366 950 ft Made The Lesser Jewel of Grace
39,600 950 ft Found The Cloak of Thingol
41,625 950 ft Entered Gothmog's hall
41,721 950 ft Destroyed Gothmog, High Captain of Balrogs
41,901 950 ft Slew Ungoliant, the Gloomweaver
42,166 950 ft Made The Amulet 'Amazing Grace'
42,758 950 ft Found The Longsword 'Aranruth'
45,572 950 ft Made The Mithril Corslet of Life
47,156 950 ft Made The Ring of Retaliation
47,487 950 ft Made The Pair of Leather Boots of the Hunter
48,115 950 ft Made The Set of Mithril Gauntlets 'No Escape
48,539 950 ft Made The Mattock of H.Mushroom Esq
50,088 Gates Entered The Gates of Angband
50,879 Gates Slew Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
50,977 Gates You escaped the Iron Hells on 05 February 2012.
50,977 Gates You brought back all three Silmarils from Morgoth's
crown!
['Score' 141349022]
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On 2.2.2012 23:22 Psi wrote:
Similar build to Ephel, but with 2435 starting stats instead of 2345. Discovered I don't need artistry to change the stats on artefacts, so that has saved me an ability in the smithing tree.
Came to closer to death than Ephel ever came when one of those fiery Rs took me down to 1 health... Increased song and used my last non-Orcish Liquor potion to save myself!
Out of _Revelations so forge hunting is going to be more troublesome this time around.
On 3.2.2012 00:54 Scatha wrote:
Looks good! I see you've already started trying to eke the most out of stacking Wrath on your items.
Remember to pick up any staves of treasures you find -- they don't directly find forges for you, but they can find staves of revelations or recharging.
On 3.2.2012 09:17 Psi wrote:
I haven't seen a _Treasures yet, but will certainly be keeping my eye out for one.
On my commute, I offed Maeglin, so now with all my forging gear on, I've already got a higher smithing score than Ephel managed. Stumbled into a 4 charge forge, so manufactured a +3 Dex ring and a nice pair of speed boots. Haven't put exchange places on them this time, as I've never used that ability yet.
Had one close call against a big, red S. Realised half a level later that I was still wearing my thinking cap, so had been missing my second layer of rFire... d'oh!
Accidentally (via flanking) took on a Grotesque for the first time. Suffice to say, I'm no longer scared of them following me around!
Just spotted in my notes that I entered the Cat Fortress! That is news to me. I saw a load of cats using my _Foes, but I never reached them. I did come to a room nearby which was empty but for two Silent Watchers against the rear wall, but having been knocked out by them, I fled.
On 3.2.2012 12:11 Scatha wrote:
Maeglin was a fortunate find!
Glend and Charge is a good combination for clearing out statues.
Yeah, that room with the two Silent Watchers is one of the antechambers of the Cat Fortress.
On 3.2.2012 12:25 Psi wrote:
The hard decision now is when to take and create my masterpiece as it has to be my last forging attempt. In an ideal world I'd make artefacts for each remaining slot, but the chances of finding that many forges are slim to say the least. It is going to be a tough call when to say enough is enough - it would be horrible to run out of levels before I have made it!
On 3.2.2012 14:50 Psi wrote:
Finally found a _Recharging once my _Revelations had been burnt up - so no easy way to go forge hunting for me! Thankfully I found a couple of forges so melted down my mithril corslet to make a replacement and then forged gloves of +4 smithing with weaponsmith and masterpiece at the other in the hope of finding at least one more...
...which I did at 950'. It was tempting to craft some jewelry, but with time running out I couldn't risk it, so I spent 58 points crafting a rapid attack Halberd of fun.
The Lair of the Greedy Worm (or something like that) is on this level, so I may go and practice on Glaurung and Smaug before descending. Last time I walked by, I got instantly confused so it maybe worth upping Will first. I've also just taken Woven themes and Mastery, so will try for an Elbereth/Mastery concoction - everything tries to flee but can't in theory. Should be interesting...
On 3.2.2012 18:36 Psi wrote:
Had time for one last go at 950' and found another forge. I invested experience back into smithing to make another masterpiece - a nice ring to keep HM happy.
Did the throne room with Elbereth and Mastery. Not sure the latter had any effect on Morgoth but Elbereth certainly did! I chased him around until he perished and then mopped up the stragglers.
Tried the crown with Nargil and SoSharpness, but it broke after the first silmaril. Thankfully Glend got the other two out so I didn't have to risk my halberd.
Might take a leisurely stroll back to the surface looking out for the unique forge and anything else I missed on the way down...
On 3.2.2012 18:38 Psi wrote:
Ah - bug with the ladder. It has me marked as a winner despite not returning to the surface yet...
On 3.2.2012 18:59 Scatha wrote:
I think killing Morgoth qualifies you as a greater hero in the eyes of Arda than "merely" retrieving a Silmaril, whether or not you ultimately survive!
Anyhow, congratulations on breaking the game -- again! :)
(It was very impressive, and you can be sure we'll be doing a little rebalancing in light of this; we don't want to destroy the strategy but it looks like it is a little bit too effective at present.)
On 3.2.2012 20:13 Psi wrote:
I thought you might ;)
It was good fun setting it up, but it did make the throne room somewhat trivial - apart from the odd breath from Ancalagon, there was little danger. Just spotted in the notes that I killed Gorthaur there too - I didn't even notice him!
On 3.2.2012 22:16 half wrote:
Yes, we're going to have to do something about you -- I mean about *your playstyle*, or something. It looks like you've done even better this time around. You seem to have made 7 artefacts which is a little excessive. Did you get lucky with forges? or is finding 7 of them after getting Artifice doable regularly? What changes do you think would help the most in stopping a character like this becoming so powerful while not crippling everyone else?
On 3.2.2012 22:21 half wrote:
Also, in honour of your being the first to kill Morgoth since release, and of doing so through incredible, Feanor-worthy feats of smithing, you are hereby granted the reward of creating an artefact for future versions of Sil. If you have a look in the artefact file you will see some thematic ideas that we haven't yet developed into items. You could make one of these, or something else. Obviously it should fit in terms of theme and power with the rest of the game. Have a think about it and let me know.
On 3.2.2012 22:22 half wrote:
Oh, and good luck on your escape! You may want to explore the Gates on your way out.
On 3.2.2012 23:20 debo wrote:
I like how ridiculous the burden limits get at these levels of strength :) 618!
On 4.2.2012 00:09 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
You need your own variant just so you can name all the artifacts.
On 4.2.2012 02:37 debo wrote:
Out of curiousity, what do you usually make at your first forge?
On 4.2.2012 03:50 decoy wrote:
Head asplode.
On 4.2.2012 09:35 Psi wrote:
@half - I made 9 artefacts this time around, which is actually one less than last time! I was surprised because with Ephel I'd found a _Revelations which enabled me to hunt for forges (and there were plenty of levels without them). Bredrimor just stumbled across them and there seemed to be forges on nearly all the last few levels. This seemed lucky to me - what are the odds on finding a forge at 950'?
In terms of the build, it is Elbereth that makes everything possible. Ephel tried to go toe to toe with Morgoth, but that wasn't going so well. As soon as he started singing though, Morgoth would flee and then speed and opportunist meant he got hit nearly every turn whilst never retaliating. Elbereth means most creatures just flee and the only ones you have to worry about are horrors and serpents. It just seems a bit too powerful to me. Saying this though, I don't how much of a difference Majesty makes on top of this - maybe it is the combination of the two?
In terms of smithing, I'd make artifice also dependent on artistry so you have to invest a bit more and maybe up the skill point cost.
Other thoughts
- cap the stats. I concentrated on getting grace as high as possible to increase smithing and song
- Unwavering voice means you can pretty much sing forever - maybe 50% instead of 100%?
Overall though, I'd like to say that Sil is a "masterpiece". It is so well thought out and apart from certain individuals *ahem*, it has proved to be very well balanced. I love how you've stripped back so much from Angband and yet brought a real depth to character advancement over a much shorter game.
@debo - I must admit I copied jujuben's start with Pellian and made two =accuracy(+2) and a "Blessed Realm(+0). Ephel found an enchanted forge as the first one so made a "Grace(+1) instead.
On 4.2.2012 09:54 Psi wrote:
Have I any chance of finding Gothmog, Ungoliant, Shelob and co? Do I need to craft a danger item perhaps?
On 4.2.2012 10:30 Psi wrote:
@half - and how could I forget. It is far too cheap to put speed on an artefact. I've not seen perm speed on anything else in the game (I guess there maybe artefacts out there that no-one has found yet). Speed should probably only be available on a masterpiece. Perhaps 40-45 points instead of 25?
On 4.2.2012 11:15 Scatha wrote:
Gothmog and Ungoliant (along with Gorthaur and Glaurung) are level 24 monsters, and don't normally turn up in the dungeon. You might be able to find them in some vaults at 950ft if you have a danger item. But there is also have a unique vault associated with each of them; these can only appear once each, and you have already been in Ungoliant's, but you might find Gothmog this way. There should have been another of these at 1,000ft, but it probably couldn't stand your singing voice.
On 4.2.2012 11:55 Scatha wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback! It's really good to have another informed opinion here. And glad you've enjoyed the game so much.
Regarding speed, obviously going fast is very strong compared to going at normal speed. But because of the player cap at speed 3, you lose the benefits of Sprinting and of Potions of Quickness, normally one of the best abilities and one of the best type of potion. In particular you can often have a hoard of potions of quickness which will see you through the critical moments of the game. That said we're certainly not completely confident about our Smithing pricings, but I thought you should know that this was a reasonably major consideration in our trying to guess the pricing for Speed.
Thanks for the comment on Elbereth. We'd had suspicions -- but the monster fear system was one of the later elements to make it into the game, so it's had less testing than most parts.
Interesting point on capping the stats. I think that getting them to silly levels is ultimately hard enough to achieve and gives enough of a cool feeling to the player that it's worth keeping, particularly as any cap would be arbitrary, but I see that it would help rein this kind of character in a little. Do you think that making the price rise for a second and third point of the same stat on an artefact even steeper would help a little?
It does seem that part of the issue was the number of forges at the end. Nine/ten artefacts seems a little excessive to me. Interesting that you got down to 900ft pretty quickly and then spend 7.5k turns at the last two depths, forging five artefacts in this time! Maybe making an artefact should take 300 turns to match the 3 forge uses (would also make it effectively impossible to make an artefact with aid from !oG)? This would have slowed you down a little. We don't want to overcompensate on reducing the number of forges too far, because this has the potential to make smithing a lot more frustrating. And it may be that if Elbereth were less effective you'd be slowed down quite a bit in clearing the levels to find forges.
Unwavering voice is obviously helping you here, but I think the main thing helping you sing forever is your ridiculous Grace score! At 12 grace without Unwavering Voice you can already sing for over twice as long as a character with a reasonable 4 grace and the ability. Not sure what to do about this.
On 4.2.2012 13:25 Psi wrote:
I'm not completely sure how the speed mechanic works with regards to turncount. Does it affect it at all? Does forging take less time or do I get longer per level etc? It certainly helps with monsters that change direction etc so you cannot keep sprint going.
I played the game as quick as I could in the early game to give me more time at the end to find forges when I had more experience to spend. Does forging currently have a fixed time then - I hadn't appreciated that. Personally I would make it a multiple of the smithing score it takes to make - perhaps 4 or 5 turns per point of smithing?
I don't think increasing the value for second and third points would make any difference. It was rare enough already to put two points in one stat because of the current price. I think there should be a rise for increasing two stats though, as currently it is more efficient to have single point rises in two stats across two artefacts rather than double point rises in one stat on each (I think anyway - I haven't actually priced it up!).
I never actually thought to use !Grace whilst smithing - so that in itself wouldn't have affected me. When finding a forge I just cleared the forge room itself and then started smithing. Whenever anything came in I just switched to Elbereth for a turn or two and then back to Aule. I'd be constantly interrupted, but would get there in the end! Elbereth usually worked on the first turn, so if that wasn't so effective it would make it harder.
On 4.2.2012 14:24 Scatha wrote:
Right, it's worth knowing that you played very quickly at the start to get time for the end. I guess we shouldn't think of this as a typical number of forges.
The turn count is by player turns, so speed doesn't help you in that regard; it just makes the monsters slower relative to you.
Forging is 100 turns per item at the moment. Varying it with the difficulty of the item would be an interesting brake on the ability to repeatedly create super-high-difficulty items.
It is indeed more efficient to make two items giving +1 to each of two stats than +2 to one each, but I see that even so you ended up with five different items increasing a single stat by 2 or more (including two non-artefact pieces of jewellery upping something by 3). I also think it _should_ be more efficient, as otherwise you could stack it so as to get +4 to a single stat for the same price as getting +2 to each of two. The way the Sil system generally works I think many characters have a preferred stat and would just stack that one (to some extent you did this with grace even with this system, but there are some slots where you can't put a grace bonus).
On 4.2.2012 14:40 Djabanete wrote:
>>> Overall though, I'd like to say that Sil is a "masterpiece".
Even though I suck and haven't broken 750 or so, I second this. Everything is really well thought out and balanced. Well done!
And congratulations on ruining everything, Psi --- better think up a really genius artifact to make up for it :D
On 4.2.2012 15:01 ewan wrote:
'Me too' - congrats both to Psi for the demonstration characters and to Scatha/Half for the intricacy and general balance.
On 4.2.2012 17:03 Psi wrote:
@Scatha - regarding the +2 items: I was only talking about artefact costings. The first +2 item I made was what I thought was my final artefact, my "masterpiece" halberd. As it happens I found one more forge, reinvested in smithing and made another "masterpiece", the +2 ring. The other +2 item I made was after having already beaten Morgoth, so can't really be considered.
Therefore in terms of artefacts during the game, I only reached +2 on "masterpieces".
On 4.2.2012 20:33 Psi wrote:
Tracked down a few more uniques and crafted a few new arts...
On 4.2.2012 21:28 Psi wrote:
Just killed Gothmog in one (rapid) attack!
On 4.2.2012 21:33 Psi wrote:
It appears grace cannot go above 20. Wasted a few artifacts building that up... oops.
On 4.2.2012 22:00 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
Looks like you have found the max limit on 1 of 4 stats!
On 4.2.2012 22:00 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
887 Voice(points)...Wow! That's a record!
On 5.2.2012 09:16 Psi wrote:
Hunting for Orodruth, so I can go out in style. Only found one _Revelations all game which is hampering the search. I assume Orodruth can get generated at 950' and if I'd missed it, it would show in my notes?
On 5.2.2012 09:34 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
I think it would show up in the notes once you've actually found it! ;)
On 5.2.2012 09:43 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
For example, for my character, 'Livin,' it showed up in my notes like this:
7,710 400 ft Entered the forge 'Orodruth'
On 5.2.2012 10:08 Djabanete wrote:
Maximum of 20 Grace? Seems quite limiting TBH :D
On 5.2.2012 11:46 Scatha wrote:
I think Orodruth can get generated at any depth, but that it wouldn't show up in your notes if you missed it (this used to show up in notes but it was kind of silly/frustrating; sadly your character is about the only situation in which it would be useful information). However if it's once been generated it won't be generated again.
On 5.2.2012 13:42 half wrote:
Yes Scatha is right. You might have missed it.
On 5.2.2012 22:25 Psi wrote:
I gave up on Orodruth and finished the journey. My final masterpiece is in honour of the one and only...
On 5.2.2012 22:58 half wrote:
Your stats are completely insane. Even taking 10 points from them would still leave them insane. It does look like you've managed to break smithing here -- congratulations again.
On 5.2.2012 23:07 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
6d22 = That's monstrous. Wow!
On 5.2.2012 23:09 Scatha wrote:
Wonderful. It would have averaged four charges with that Mattock to topple Morgoth ...
On 5.2.2012 23:36 HallucinationMushroom wrote:
6d22?! 6d22!!!!!!!!! This beats your 4d14 weapon that I still obsess over. And that 1d21 storm hammer. Awww, I'm feeling the love.
On 6.2.2012 00:45 HugoTheGreat2011 wrote:
In future versions, there should be a new artifact or unique monster named, "Bredrimor." This is a keeper!
On 6.2.2012 11:55 Psi wrote:
I think I read in artefact.txt that war hammers get a bonus to smithing - is that actually correct? If so I missed a trick there.
By the way, that unique deathblade was the toughest opponent I faced. I actually had to heal up during that fight just in case... I imagine a more normal character build could have real problems against it. Not sure how one would normally fight it, as I presume fleeing is pretty futile?
On 6.2.2012 12:07 Scatha wrote:
It's not that they get a bonus to Smithing but that you can put a bonus to Smithing on an artefact hammer (whereas you can't normally put it on weapons). So I guess maybe you did miss a trick (could have made something better than the Dagger of the Smith).
Deathblades don't attack you unless you get very close, so you can always avoid fighting it. But in this case it might just be it got a lucky hit against you. It's got a (+33, 1d9) attack which is _very_ hard to dodge but can normally be absorbed without too much difficulty by high protection and Critical Resistance, for instance. It also resists Cold, so your halberd would have been less effective than normal.
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